Subj: Bharat Mata
1. Dear Mr. Atrri,
Thank you so much for your reply. Your information is very informative, and now I will be able to quote you, together with a small introduction, in my work.
The thing that struke me was, that you call yourselve a pagan.
Is that 'pagan' as in 'non believer' ? Does that mean that your interest and protection is for the cultur of India in general, en not Hinduism?
Thank you again,
Irene Veldman
2. My Take:
Quote: Your information is very informative, and now I will be able to quote you, together with a small introduction, in my work.
COMMENT: Signora Irene Veldman: I am pleased that you find my information helpful. Please feel free to make use of it, any way you please.
3. During my last attempt at " Bharat ", I neglected to spell out " Mata ." The two go together as Bharat Mata.
Mata means Mother & Bharat Mata means Mother Bharat. It is the ancient ( Sanskrit ) name of India or Hindustan. Hindustan is the name that Bactrians ( AKA Persians/AKA Iranians ) gave to our country. It is said that Iranians could not pronounce the word Sindh ( referring to river Sindh in Pakistan ), and instead of Sindhustan, started calling it Hindustan. The suffix of " Stan " comes from the Sanskrit word Isthan, which means a place to live.
Thus Hindustan or Sindhustan is a place, where Hindus or Sindhus live.
4. Further " Mata " is a metaphor of many connotations, such as Bharat Mata, Gau ( Cow ) Mata, meaning Mother Cow, Mata Bhasha or Matri Bhasha, meaning Mother Tongue. In fact, India/Hindustan itself is referred to as Mother India, and never as Father India, as is the custom in places like Germany.
5. Quote: The thing that struke me was, that you call yourselve a pagan.
Is that 'pagan' as in 'non believer' ?
COMMENT: I am a Pagan alright, but I am not an unbeliever per se, I am an unbeliever in the Christian God. Similarly, I am also an unbeliever in Stupid-Allah, the Islamic God.
7. Quote: Does that mean that your interest and protection is for the cultur of India in general, en not Hinduism?
COMMENT: There are differences in the values of various religions, that inhabit India. But Hinduism alone is the bearer of Indian civilization. Despite thousand years of slavery, of credal religions of Islam & Christianity ( first Moslems and then the British ), neither Hindus nor Hindu civilization have been swept away.
But, even though, there is no Indian civilization, without or outside of Hinduism, and even though there is colossal threat from credal religions ( Islam & Christianity ), Hindu society has not imbibed a military spirit. How long is Bharat Mata going to last in India, with this defensive attitude of the Hindu.
Surinder Paul Attri
Sunday, August 8, 2010
Friday, August 6, 2010
Response to Irene Veldman's message
Subj: Response to Irene Veldman's message
1. From: ireneveldman@live.nl
To: spattri@hinduunity.org
Subject: some questions
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:29:44 +0200
Dear Mr. Attri,
With great interest I have read your article 'How the heck did we Hindoes get trapped?'. I would like to quote some of your statements in my thesis.
At the moment I am writing my master thesis, the main questions in it are: how and why is it that more and more India is being referred to as Bharat Mata in Indian (Hindutva) politics?
I have a genuine interest in hindu-culture en hindu-religion. After two visits to India, and a lot of reading, I am now able to use all of this in my studies as well.
Because I would like to quote you in my work, I am also interested in you as a person. I have seen you are active on many websites and forums. But all I have been able to trace is that you are a USA resident. It would be helpfull for me to know where this passion for hinduism and India's future is coming from. Are you a politician? Or are you affiliated with a culturally-based hinduorganisation? Are you born in the USA, or did you move there later in live? I suppose you are a very religious person. Can you tell my anything on that?
If you could spare the time to help me with my question, your help is very much appreciated.
Yours sincerely,
miss Irene Veldman
masterstudent Religious Studies
Radboud Universty, Nijmegen, The Netherlands
2. My Take:
Quote: With great interest I have read your article 'How the heck did we Hindoes get trapped?'. I would like to quote some of your statements in my thesis.
COMMENT: Signora Irene Veldman: I am glad that you wanted to know, what I wrote in " How the heck did we Hindus get trapped ? " Please feel free to quote or use any of my statements, in your thesis.
3. Quote: At the moment I am writing my master thesis, the main questions in it are: how and why is it that more and more India is being referred to as Bharat Mata in Indian (Hindutva) politics?
COMMENT: Hindutva-type Hindus use the term Bharat Mata to protest ( and cry out ) against the repression, suppresion,subjugation, slaughter, and plunder of Hindu people & Hindu culture, by Moslem rulers ( and also British rulers ), But " Bharat " is used by Non-Hindutva types also. The usual reference is:
" India that is Bharat "
Bharata is an ancient Sanskrit word. There are several theories about the origin of the term Bharata. The most popular theiry is that:
" Bharata is the son of king Dushyanta & his beautiful wife Shakuntla, who became the First Emperor of Greater India. "
India has been known Always as Bharata, after that event, until the Moslems came over, and started demolishing ( and levelling to the ground ) everything about the Kafir (Non-Moslem Infidel ) Hindu.
4. Quote: I have a genuine interest in hindu-culture en hindu-religion. After two visits to India, and a lot of reading, I am now able to use all of this in my studies as well.
COMMENT: I am delighted that you have a " true-blue " interest in Hindu Culture & Hindu Religion. Also that you are putting it to good use.
5. Quote: Because I would like to quote you in my work, I am also interested in you as a person.
COMMENT: Please feel free to use any of my write-ups.
Regarding me as a person: I am a Pagan & a Kafir. I like the Dutch people & know a few Dutch-Pagans. Unfortunately, due to crash of my hard-drive, I lost their phone-numbers as well as their E-Mail addresses.
6. Quote: I have seen you are active on many websites and forums. But all I have been able to trace is that you are a USA resident.
COMMENT: Absolutely true.
7. Quote: It would be helpfull for me to know where this passion for hinduism and India's future is coming from
COMMENT: Signora Irene: No body has asked this question from me before. It is a legitimate question, but I am going to answer your question, in a round-about way.
Once I was at a dinner table, next to an American friend, amongst a group of Americans. My American friend took a serving of beef from the table and then said to me, " You don't eat this stuff." I replied, " No, I don't. " My friend then said, " Cows are sacred to Hindus. " I replied, " They sure are. "
I told my American friend that this probably appears outlandish to you, and you laugh at us Hindus because we worship our cows. My American friend replied, " No, we don't "
I said, " Oh yes, you do. " My friend again replied, " No, we don't. "
I then told my friend, " Don't deny, I know you do. " Finally, my friend replied, " I guess we do, but it is only cultural, we have nothing against the Hindu people. "
I told my American friend, " You know something. Everytime I realize that your religion blames everthing that is evil, on a totally imaginary creature, which you call Devil, I have Hell of a time, controlling my laughter. "
My American friend then said, " This whole thing about religion is crazy. "
I said to him, " Not only the religion, but all of us humans are a little bit crazy, but don't know about it. "
My Yanke friedn & I totally agreed with the last statement.
8. Now I can answer your question. Neither Christianity nor Islam, deal with evil at all. Both blame all evil on a totally-imaginary creature, which they call the Devil. They are:
" Passing the Buck. "
Hinduism is not perfect, but Hinduism confronts evil Head-On. Hinduism puts man in the Driver's Seat, and holds him responsible for all his actions, good as well as bad ( known as good-Karma & bad-Karma ). There is Total-Accountability in Hinduism. In Islam & Christianity, the Acountability is Absolute-Zero.
My passion for Hinduism, comes from this far-flung difference, between Islam/Christianity & Hinduism,..
9. Quote: Are you a politician? Or are you affiliated with a culturally-based hinduorganisation? Are you born in the USA, or did you move there later in live? I suppose you are a very religious person. Can you tell my anything on that?
COMMENT: Negative on all counts.
I was born in India, but now live in the USA. You might call me a Yanke ( this is a joke ).
10. Finally, I like the Dutch people, especially the Dutch-Pagans. They are my-type of people.
:" These Dutch have the Touch. "
Sincerely,
Surinder Paul Attri
1. From: ireneveldman@live.nl
To: spattri@hinduunity.org
Subject: some questions
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:29:44 +0200
Dear Mr. Attri,
With great interest I have read your article 'How the heck did we Hindoes get trapped?'. I would like to quote some of your statements in my thesis.
At the moment I am writing my master thesis, the main questions in it are: how and why is it that more and more India is being referred to as Bharat Mata in Indian (Hindutva) politics?
I have a genuine interest in hindu-culture en hindu-religion. After two visits to India, and a lot of reading, I am now able to use all of this in my studies as well.
Because I would like to quote you in my work, I am also interested in you as a person. I have seen you are active on many websites and forums. But all I have been able to trace is that you are a USA resident. It would be helpfull for me to know where this passion for hinduism and India's future is coming from. Are you a politician? Or are you affiliated with a culturally-based hinduorganisation? Are you born in the USA, or did you move there later in live? I suppose you are a very religious person. Can you tell my anything on that?
If you could spare the time to help me with my question, your help is very much appreciated.
Yours sincerely,
miss Irene Veldman
masterstudent Religious Studies
Radboud Universty, Nijmegen, The Netherlands
2. My Take:
Quote: With great interest I have read your article 'How the heck did we Hindoes get trapped?'. I would like to quote some of your statements in my thesis.
COMMENT: Signora Irene Veldman: I am glad that you wanted to know, what I wrote in " How the heck did we Hindus get trapped ? " Please feel free to quote or use any of my statements, in your thesis.
3. Quote: At the moment I am writing my master thesis, the main questions in it are: how and why is it that more and more India is being referred to as Bharat Mata in Indian (Hindutva) politics?
COMMENT: Hindutva-type Hindus use the term Bharat Mata to protest ( and cry out ) against the repression, suppresion,subjugation, slaughter, and plunder of Hindu people & Hindu culture, by Moslem rulers ( and also British rulers ), But " Bharat " is used by Non-Hindutva types also. The usual reference is:
" India that is Bharat "
Bharata is an ancient Sanskrit word. There are several theories about the origin of the term Bharata. The most popular theiry is that:
" Bharata is the son of king Dushyanta & his beautiful wife Shakuntla, who became the First Emperor of Greater India. "
India has been known Always as Bharata, after that event, until the Moslems came over, and started demolishing ( and levelling to the ground ) everything about the Kafir (Non-Moslem Infidel ) Hindu.
4. Quote: I have a genuine interest in hindu-culture en hindu-religion. After two visits to India, and a lot of reading, I am now able to use all of this in my studies as well.
COMMENT: I am delighted that you have a " true-blue " interest in Hindu Culture & Hindu Religion. Also that you are putting it to good use.
5. Quote: Because I would like to quote you in my work, I am also interested in you as a person.
COMMENT: Please feel free to use any of my write-ups.
Regarding me as a person: I am a Pagan & a Kafir. I like the Dutch people & know a few Dutch-Pagans. Unfortunately, due to crash of my hard-drive, I lost their phone-numbers as well as their E-Mail addresses.
6. Quote: I have seen you are active on many websites and forums. But all I have been able to trace is that you are a USA resident.
COMMENT: Absolutely true.
7. Quote: It would be helpfull for me to know where this passion for hinduism and India's future is coming from
COMMENT: Signora Irene: No body has asked this question from me before. It is a legitimate question, but I am going to answer your question, in a round-about way.
Once I was at a dinner table, next to an American friend, amongst a group of Americans. My American friend took a serving of beef from the table and then said to me, " You don't eat this stuff." I replied, " No, I don't. " My friend then said, " Cows are sacred to Hindus. " I replied, " They sure are. "
I told my American friend that this probably appears outlandish to you, and you laugh at us Hindus because we worship our cows. My American friend replied, " No, we don't "
I said, " Oh yes, you do. " My friend again replied, " No, we don't. "
I then told my friend, " Don't deny, I know you do. " Finally, my friend replied, " I guess we do, but it is only cultural, we have nothing against the Hindu people. "
I told my American friend, " You know something. Everytime I realize that your religion blames everthing that is evil, on a totally imaginary creature, which you call Devil, I have Hell of a time, controlling my laughter. "
My American friend then said, " This whole thing about religion is crazy. "
I said to him, " Not only the religion, but all of us humans are a little bit crazy, but don't know about it. "
My Yanke friedn & I totally agreed with the last statement.
8. Now I can answer your question. Neither Christianity nor Islam, deal with evil at all. Both blame all evil on a totally-imaginary creature, which they call the Devil. They are:
" Passing the Buck. "
Hinduism is not perfect, but Hinduism confronts evil Head-On. Hinduism puts man in the Driver's Seat, and holds him responsible for all his actions, good as well as bad ( known as good-Karma & bad-Karma ). There is Total-Accountability in Hinduism. In Islam & Christianity, the Acountability is Absolute-Zero.
My passion for Hinduism, comes from this far-flung difference, between Islam/Christianity & Hinduism,..
9. Quote: Are you a politician? Or are you affiliated with a culturally-based hinduorganisation? Are you born in the USA, or did you move there later in live? I suppose you are a very religious person. Can you tell my anything on that?
COMMENT: Negative on all counts.
I was born in India, but now live in the USA. You might call me a Yanke ( this is a joke ).
10. Finally, I like the Dutch people, especially the Dutch-Pagans. They are my-type of people.
:" These Dutch have the Touch. "
Sincerely,
Surinder Paul Attri
Thursday, August 5, 2010
Comment on 3000 ISLAMIC SUICIDE BOMBER PLANNING TO CAPTURE INDIA - ARE WE READY TO
Subj: Comment on 3000 ISLAMIC SUICIDE BOMBER PLANNING TO CAPTURE INDIA - ARE WE READY TO
1. bhagavaandaas tyaagi
to me
VERY SCARY----- forwarded to 70 people -----
2. My Take: Scary yes !
But this scare ought not to spook us or creep us Hindus out, but make us resolve to pay the Sulla back in his own coin. Force is what Sulla respects, and force is what Sulla is going to get. It is only a matter of time, before Hindu becomes angry enough, and makes the Sulla reap the whirl-winds.
3. This is not to under-estimate the threat of Tahir Ali ( of Islamabad ) or of Azam Tariq ( of Tehreek-E-Taliban/TET ). Both of them want to shoot the core out of Kafir-Hindu Their threats of decisive battles against Hindus of Hindustan, are for real. We Hindus have seen violent waves of Islamic-Imperialism, surging all around our Bharat-Varsha, for twelve centuries.
4. This threat is bad enough, as it is. On top of it, the ruling class of India, consisting mostly of Phoney-Liberal Hindus ( Hell with these Phoney-Liberals ! ) is wearing blind-folds. This class cannot see the blood-thirsty monster of Islam. This monster has cleaned up its separate state of Pakistan, from the curse of Kafir-Hindu, and is now trying to capture the whole of India, by the right of conquest, in the name of Allah. This is happening right under the nose of the Phoney-LIberal Hindu politicians.
5. Smart Hindus, who are alert & awake, know very well that they cannot rely upon their politicians ( Phoney-Liberal politicians ) to defend them & their Hindu interests. Hindu shall have to rely entirely on his own resources.
For 1200 years, this class of smart & alert Hindus, had to struggle ceaselessly, to defend Hindu interests, against horde after horde of Barbaric Islamic invaders, who slaughtered hundereds of millions of our Hindus, burnt, pillaged, demolished 64,000 plus of our Hindu shrines, enslave millions of Hindus, and foisted by force, their own brand of Bedouin-Barbarism.
6. Let this be made clear to everybody, Hindu & Non-Hindu alike that:
We Hindus will Never accept the Un-civilized Bedouin-Barbarians, on par with Dharmic-Hindu, whose values are based on Sanatam Dharma. We Hindus will Never allow the Bedouin-Barbarians, to bring their Era Of Darkness, again into our Bharat-Varsha.
7. At the present time, our Hindu Society is not organized. But sooner or later, we Hindus shall have our problems figured out. and line ourselves up Smartly, to Kick Sulla's A**, route his Islamic-Imperialism, Totally out of India, once & for all.
Surinder Paul Attri
1. bhagavaandaas tyaagi
to me
VERY SCARY----- forwarded to 70 people -----
2. My Take: Scary yes !
But this scare ought not to spook us or creep us Hindus out, but make us resolve to pay the Sulla back in his own coin. Force is what Sulla respects, and force is what Sulla is going to get. It is only a matter of time, before Hindu becomes angry enough, and makes the Sulla reap the whirl-winds.
3. This is not to under-estimate the threat of Tahir Ali ( of Islamabad ) or of Azam Tariq ( of Tehreek-E-Taliban/TET ). Both of them want to shoot the core out of Kafir-Hindu Their threats of decisive battles against Hindus of Hindustan, are for real. We Hindus have seen violent waves of Islamic-Imperialism, surging all around our Bharat-Varsha, for twelve centuries.
4. This threat is bad enough, as it is. On top of it, the ruling class of India, consisting mostly of Phoney-Liberal Hindus ( Hell with these Phoney-Liberals ! ) is wearing blind-folds. This class cannot see the blood-thirsty monster of Islam. This monster has cleaned up its separate state of Pakistan, from the curse of Kafir-Hindu, and is now trying to capture the whole of India, by the right of conquest, in the name of Allah. This is happening right under the nose of the Phoney-LIberal Hindu politicians.
5. Smart Hindus, who are alert & awake, know very well that they cannot rely upon their politicians ( Phoney-Liberal politicians ) to defend them & their Hindu interests. Hindu shall have to rely entirely on his own resources.
For 1200 years, this class of smart & alert Hindus, had to struggle ceaselessly, to defend Hindu interests, against horde after horde of Barbaric Islamic invaders, who slaughtered hundereds of millions of our Hindus, burnt, pillaged, demolished 64,000 plus of our Hindu shrines, enslave millions of Hindus, and foisted by force, their own brand of Bedouin-Barbarism.
6. Let this be made clear to everybody, Hindu & Non-Hindu alike that:
We Hindus will Never accept the Un-civilized Bedouin-Barbarians, on par with Dharmic-Hindu, whose values are based on Sanatam Dharma. We Hindus will Never allow the Bedouin-Barbarians, to bring their Era Of Darkness, again into our Bharat-Varsha.
7. At the present time, our Hindu Society is not organized. But sooner or later, we Hindus shall have our problems figured out. and line ourselves up Smartly, to Kick Sulla's A**, route his Islamic-Imperialism, Totally out of India, once & for all.
Surinder Paul Attri
Wednesday, August 4, 2010
3000 ISLAMIC SUICIDE BOMBER PLANNING TO CAPTURE INDIA - ARE WE READY TO ...
1. Subj: 3000 ISLAMIC SUICIDE BOMBER PLANNING TO CAPTURE INDIA - ARE WE READY TO ...
I FOUND THE LINK FOR THE ARTICLE ATTACHED HEREWITH:
http://news.rediff.com/special/2010/jul/26/three-thousand-terrorists-for-india-battle-pak-taliban.htm
August 2, 2010
3000 ISLAMIC SUICIDE BOMBERS PLANNING TO CAPTURE INDIA - ARE WE READY TO HANDLE THEM?
Dear Hindu, Sikh, Jain and Buddhists
Sisters and Brothers:
I got the following news item from someone in the mail.
Hence I do not have any URL for this item.
Some of you must have already be aware of this news items.
This is a little bit worrisome news. We should change our mindset and strategy, and formulate our plans to handle these fanatic brutes in an appropriate manner.
Regards.
Narain Kataria
(718) 478-5735
2. My Take: Shri Kataria Jee: Thanks for bringing this disquieting-threat to our attention.
Reg: 3000 ISLAMIC SUICIDE BOMBERS, PLANNING TO CAPTURE INDIA - : This is a highly-depraved threat of Islam, but it goes with the territory, with the nature of the beast, the beast of Islam. Islam is a beast, and it cannot connect itself with anything clean or honorable.
Do the Sullas want to capture India ?
Answer: Not only do they want to capture India, they want to make hunting-trophies out of Kafir-Hindu.
3. Reg: Are we ready to handle them ?
Answer: Not at the moment. But when we get going ( if we ever ), then we shall Knock the Hell out of Islamic Degenrate Ideology. Then the Sulla will feel the Sting of Hindu-Power, for sure. That is as real as it can get.
Surinder Paul Attri
I FOUND THE LINK FOR THE ARTICLE ATTACHED HEREWITH:
http://news.rediff.com/special/2010/jul/26/three-thousand-terrorists-for-india-battle-pak-taliban.htm
August 2, 2010
3000 ISLAMIC SUICIDE BOMBERS PLANNING TO CAPTURE INDIA - ARE WE READY TO HANDLE THEM?
Dear Hindu, Sikh, Jain and Buddhists
Sisters and Brothers:
I got the following news item from someone in the mail.
Hence I do not have any URL for this item.
Some of you must have already be aware of this news items.
This is a little bit worrisome news. We should change our mindset and strategy, and formulate our plans to handle these fanatic brutes in an appropriate manner.
Regards.
Narain Kataria
(718) 478-5735
2. My Take: Shri Kataria Jee: Thanks for bringing this disquieting-threat to our attention.
Reg: 3000 ISLAMIC SUICIDE BOMBERS, PLANNING TO CAPTURE INDIA - : This is a highly-depraved threat of Islam, but it goes with the territory, with the nature of the beast, the beast of Islam. Islam is a beast, and it cannot connect itself with anything clean or honorable.
Do the Sullas want to capture India ?
Answer: Not only do they want to capture India, they want to make hunting-trophies out of Kafir-Hindu.
3. Reg: Are we ready to handle them ?
Answer: Not at the moment. But when we get going ( if we ever ), then we shall Knock the Hell out of Islamic Degenrate Ideology. Then the Sulla will feel the Sting of Hindu-Power, for sure. That is as real as it can get.
Surinder Paul Attri
Monday, August 2, 2010
Freedom And Islam
1. Freedom And Islam
Babu Suseelan
to vedi
Apocalyptic Jihadi Terrorists in Kashmir, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Palestine say they are fighting for Freedom. What Freedom? Islam forbids Freedom, Secularism, Pluralism, Democracy, coexistence and religious tolerance. Muslims are running away from freedom. Infidels fight for liberty, democracy, peace and coexistence. Muslims all over the world fight for imposing Islamic tyranny. The word freedom frequently used by Muslims connote a paradox. How could we say that they are Freedom Fighters in Kashmir while Muslims are killing infidel Hindus, sikhs, Jains, Buddhists and Christians. Jihadis want Islamic tyranny and Koran slavery. Islamic slavery and tyranny is not freedom. Muslims are afraid of freedom and liberal thinking. They escape from freedom and love Islamic slavery and Allah's tyranny. Freedom means responsible and civilized behavior. Muslims not only escape from freedom but impose, promote and practice evil.
2. My Take:
Islam & Freedom: This is the Biggest-Joke in the Universe. There is No freedom in Islam, nor can there ever be.
By claiming that they are fighting for freedom, the Sullas are exploiting Kafir-Hindu's gullibility, throwing dust in the eyes of the idolatrous Hindu.Smart Hindus ought to disregard this Islamic poppy-cock. In fact, Hindus ought to push the Sullas back into Mecca & Medina, the original home of Bedouin-Barbarians.
4. To sum up the Sulla approach:
Pakistan & Bangladesh are the Fixed-Deposits of Islam. Both are Islamic states, no one can lay a claim on either one. But India is a Joint-Account. Plunder it as much as you can.
5. What are the Mullas & Maulvies of Islam saying:
They are both borrowing Karl Marx's metaphor:
We, the Mullahs & Maulvies of Islam, disdain to hide our aim. We stand for a full & final conquest of India by Islam. Muslmaans Of India, Unite.
You have nothing to lose but your minority status & complex, but a whole subcontinent to gain.
6. What are the Sullas of UK saying ( on Al-Jazeers TV ):
The British public is bigoted, they should expect more attacks ( suicidal blow-ups ) from his Moslem brothers.
This Hill-Billy Sulla has forgotten that his Father left his run-down, rickety country,hungry & came as a beggar to UK, which allowed him to stay with dignity & pride. Now he wants to destroy the same country, he is cutting off the hand that feeds him.This guy is a Sicky, like his Sick-Islam, and he has the audacity to threaten UK. It is a shame that, democracies are allowing such savages to threaten innocent lives. Sullas & their Islam, are a cancer. They need to be eradicated with spunk & resolve.
Surinder Paul Attri
Babu Suseelan
to vedi
Apocalyptic Jihadi Terrorists in Kashmir, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Palestine say they are fighting for Freedom. What Freedom? Islam forbids Freedom, Secularism, Pluralism, Democracy, coexistence and religious tolerance. Muslims are running away from freedom. Infidels fight for liberty, democracy, peace and coexistence. Muslims all over the world fight for imposing Islamic tyranny. The word freedom frequently used by Muslims connote a paradox. How could we say that they are Freedom Fighters in Kashmir while Muslims are killing infidel Hindus, sikhs, Jains, Buddhists and Christians. Jihadis want Islamic tyranny and Koran slavery. Islamic slavery and tyranny is not freedom. Muslims are afraid of freedom and liberal thinking. They escape from freedom and love Islamic slavery and Allah's tyranny. Freedom means responsible and civilized behavior. Muslims not only escape from freedom but impose, promote and practice evil.
2. My Take:
Islam & Freedom: This is the Biggest-Joke in the Universe. There is No freedom in Islam, nor can there ever be.
By claiming that they are fighting for freedom, the Sullas are exploiting Kafir-Hindu's gullibility, throwing dust in the eyes of the idolatrous Hindu.Smart Hindus ought to disregard this Islamic poppy-cock. In fact, Hindus ought to push the Sullas back into Mecca & Medina, the original home of Bedouin-Barbarians.
4. To sum up the Sulla approach:
Pakistan & Bangladesh are the Fixed-Deposits of Islam. Both are Islamic states, no one can lay a claim on either one. But India is a Joint-Account. Plunder it as much as you can.
5. What are the Mullas & Maulvies of Islam saying:
They are both borrowing Karl Marx's metaphor:
We, the Mullahs & Maulvies of Islam, disdain to hide our aim. We stand for a full & final conquest of India by Islam. Muslmaans Of India, Unite.
You have nothing to lose but your minority status & complex, but a whole subcontinent to gain.
6. What are the Sullas of UK saying ( on Al-Jazeers TV ):
The British public is bigoted, they should expect more attacks ( suicidal blow-ups ) from his Moslem brothers.
This Hill-Billy Sulla has forgotten that his Father left his run-down, rickety country,hungry & came as a beggar to UK, which allowed him to stay with dignity & pride. Now he wants to destroy the same country, he is cutting off the hand that feeds him.This guy is a Sicky, like his Sick-Islam, and he has the audacity to threaten UK. It is a shame that, democracies are allowing such savages to threaten innocent lives. Sullas & their Islam, are a cancer. They need to be eradicated with spunk & resolve.
Surinder Paul Attri
Sunday, August 1, 2010
Comments on “Baby drowned during Baptism” 1
Subj: Comments on “Baby drowned during Baptism”
1. Namaste Surinder ji,
DhanyavAdah for your clarifications.
Would be interested some time to learn more about your argument on Baptism as an exorcist ritual.
If you have any article on it, I would be very happy to go through it if it would be possible for you to send it via mail.
I had a different understanding of the ritual but if your explanation can throw new light on the subject will be very happy to know more about it.
Regarding the similarities between Pagan Myths, I have a problem with the word pagan because it seems to have a derogatory connotation to it as primitive and uncivilised, a word employed by early Christians to denigrate the native belief-systems of those they had come to convert.
It was interesting to learn about the similarities between the Icelandic Myths and those of the Sanatana Dharma. Would be uttamam to explore this connection further.
Shubhamastu
Anuradha
2. My Take: Namaste to you, Anuradha Choudry Jee.
3. Quote: DhanyavAdah for your clarifications.
COMMENT: You are welcome.
4. Quote: Would be interested some time to learn more about your argument on Baptism as an exorcist ritual.
If you have any article on it, I would be very happy to go through it if it would be possible for you to send it via mail.
COMMENT: Sorry! I do not have any article, nor am aware of the existence of any article on this subject.
5. Quote: I had a different understanding of the ritual but if your explanation can throw new light on the subject will be very happy to know more about it.
COMMENT: This does not surprise me at all. Many Christian Priests are also totally amazed & wonder how this inter-marriage between baptism & exorcism is possible.
But this linkage is not only possible, but has a strong presence in Christianity.In fact, it is fundamental to Christianity. Consequently, I oppose humbug and separate fact from fiction.
You tell me what is your understanding of baptism, and I will explain mine, and I will put Exorcism on top of Baptism.
I would say this, in the interim, that Devil ( a totally imaginary creature ) is very real to Christianity. Diabolical-Possession is also extremely real to Christians. Christianity tries to confine the Devil ( a creature of no-existence ) to Hell. That is what Exorcism is all about.
6. Quote: Regarding the similarities between Pagan Myths, I have a problem with the word pagan because it seems to have a derogatory connotation to it as primitive and uncivilised, a word employed by early Christians to denigrate the native belief-systems of those they had come to convert.
COMMENT: This does Not shock me at all.
The Pagans of Europe also have a problem with the term Pagan, because this is a term of abuse that, Christians use for Non-Christian Infidels. The Pagans of Europe want to damn the term that represents them. But I call myself a Pagan ( A Proud Pagan ) and have suggested that they use it too. First, Pagan is a standard term, well-understood by nearly everybody. Secondly, I use the term Pagan ( Paganism ) to expose the heinous crimes that Christianity represents.
For the same reason, I call myself a Kafir, even though some Hindus don't like it, because it is a term of abuse that Moslems have chosen for Non-Moslem Infidels. Hindus prefer to use their own term. Suffice it to say, that for reasons of my own, I call myself a Kafir ( A Proud Kafir ). I use this term, to give Hell to Islam.
Surinder Paul Attri
1. Namaste Surinder ji,
DhanyavAdah for your clarifications.
Would be interested some time to learn more about your argument on Baptism as an exorcist ritual.
If you have any article on it, I would be very happy to go through it if it would be possible for you to send it via mail.
I had a different understanding of the ritual but if your explanation can throw new light on the subject will be very happy to know more about it.
Regarding the similarities between Pagan Myths, I have a problem with the word pagan because it seems to have a derogatory connotation to it as primitive and uncivilised, a word employed by early Christians to denigrate the native belief-systems of those they had come to convert.
It was interesting to learn about the similarities between the Icelandic Myths and those of the Sanatana Dharma. Would be uttamam to explore this connection further.
Shubhamastu
Anuradha
2. My Take: Namaste to you, Anuradha Choudry Jee.
3. Quote: DhanyavAdah for your clarifications.
COMMENT: You are welcome.
4. Quote: Would be interested some time to learn more about your argument on Baptism as an exorcist ritual.
If you have any article on it, I would be very happy to go through it if it would be possible for you to send it via mail.
COMMENT: Sorry! I do not have any article, nor am aware of the existence of any article on this subject.
5. Quote: I had a different understanding of the ritual but if your explanation can throw new light on the subject will be very happy to know more about it.
COMMENT: This does not surprise me at all. Many Christian Priests are also totally amazed & wonder how this inter-marriage between baptism & exorcism is possible.
But this linkage is not only possible, but has a strong presence in Christianity.In fact, it is fundamental to Christianity. Consequently, I oppose humbug and separate fact from fiction.
You tell me what is your understanding of baptism, and I will explain mine, and I will put Exorcism on top of Baptism.
I would say this, in the interim, that Devil ( a totally imaginary creature ) is very real to Christianity. Diabolical-Possession is also extremely real to Christians. Christianity tries to confine the Devil ( a creature of no-existence ) to Hell. That is what Exorcism is all about.
6. Quote: Regarding the similarities between Pagan Myths, I have a problem with the word pagan because it seems to have a derogatory connotation to it as primitive and uncivilised, a word employed by early Christians to denigrate the native belief-systems of those they had come to convert.
COMMENT: This does Not shock me at all.
The Pagans of Europe also have a problem with the term Pagan, because this is a term of abuse that, Christians use for Non-Christian Infidels. The Pagans of Europe want to damn the term that represents them. But I call myself a Pagan ( A Proud Pagan ) and have suggested that they use it too. First, Pagan is a standard term, well-understood by nearly everybody. Secondly, I use the term Pagan ( Paganism ) to expose the heinous crimes that Christianity represents.
For the same reason, I call myself a Kafir, even though some Hindus don't like it, because it is a term of abuse that Moslems have chosen for Non-Moslem Infidels. Hindus prefer to use their own term. Suffice it to say, that for reasons of my own, I call myself a Kafir ( A Proud Kafir ). I use this term, to give Hell to Islam.
Surinder Paul Attri
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