Subj: A Bishop advises his congregation to shop-lift
1.Attriji
Namaskaar
TheTimes, Londonof 22nd Dec carried a report that a Bishop in North Yorkshire has advised his flock that they shouild
resort to shop-lifting. He was rather selective in his approach. He asked diasadvantaged (Wagesless and poor) people
to do so and that also at bigs upermarket/stores. He further clarified that this course is better than prostitution.
The Police Authorities were concerned that such a "sermon" should come from a Church holyman. The Business Community
were furious that they should be targetted like this, when as a Citizen they pay legitimate taxes for the relief of the down-troddens.
In Christianity, one of the Commanments: Thy shall not steal appears to have been replaced by this Bishop with:
Thy shall Shop-lift!
Attriji, to me it does not appear to be unique idea.
In this modern age Christianity cannot remain unscientifivc. In India poor people are enticed to covert to Christianity
in the name of egalitarianism and after conversions they are asked/encouraged to beg as Dalits!
Yours sincerelu
BK Chaudhari
2. My Take:
Namaskar to you also, Chaudhari Sahib:
3. Yes, this Bishop, Father Tim Jones, is advising his congregation to shop-lift. For this, he has been criticized as " highly irresponsible. " Says Father Jones:
" stealing from large chains ( not from small ones ), is sometimes the best option for vulnerable people. "
Is he the bandit of Sherwood Forest, Robin Hood , robbing the rich to give it to the poor ? Hardly !
Father Jones is no hood ( hoodlum). He is confronting a diabolical puzzle, for which his
Christianity has no real clue. That is his problem.
4. But isn't there a Biblical-Commandment against stealing ? Yes, there is. But this particular commandment is as obligatory, as are the other nine. In fact, these ten commandments are as hollow as a drum. Why so ?
Because there is no foundation or stone-work of accountability in Christianity.
5. To intents & purposes, Biblical-Commandments are Mere Metaphors. Christians use metaphors all over the place ( believe you me ). Additions, subtractions, and modifications are worked out, all the time. For instance, a Biblical-Commandment says:
" Love they neighbor..... "
A Christian modification of this is:
" Love thy neighbor & his wife "
You don't have to be a rocket-scientist to see that, suitable derivatives can be worked out, to meet the needs of the situation.
6. Now look at the Hindu System: Hinduism confronts evil Head-On. Hinduism puts man in the Driver's Seat, and holds him responsible for all his deeds, good as well bad. A Hindu rises by good deeds & falls by evil deeds. This is the Hindu Principle of Karma & Re-Incarnation. There is nothing like this principle in either Islam or Christianity.
In daily life, Christians hear the narrative:
" As you sow, so shall you reap ( that is what Karma essentially is ). "
But their clergy forbids them to utter " Karma ," because Karma is the work of the Devil.
7. Then how does Christianity deal with evil ?
Answer: Christianity does Not deal with evil at all. Christianity blames all evil, on a totally-imaginary creature, which it names as the Devil ( Satan ).
8. Another Christian mischief: Christianity sedulously trains its Christians as " Pass The Buck Artists ."
A Christian commits crime/sin, and his leader Jesus Christ, pays for his crime. The Christian does not have to worry about payment. He goes back to crime, and passes the buck again to Jesus Christ.
9. Another Christian mischief: The Confessional.
A Christian goes to his priest & confesses his crime. Once this is done, he considers himself free. He returns to crime & repeats Confessional.
10. To put it simply, derivatives of Biblical-Commandments, dominate the life of Christians. No rule nor any commandment really applies in Christianity.
11. Quote: Attriji, to me it does not appear to be unique idea.
COMMENT: Chaudhari Sahib: No it is not. In fact, there is nothing Unique in Christianity. Stories of the Bible itself, are theological-derivatives of Arabian Night Stories ( that have been making the rounds of Arabia for thousands of years ).
12. Quote: In this modern age Christianity cannot remain unscientifivc
COMMENT: Christianity has done pretty well for itself for 2000 years, with its unscientific apparatus. Why should it change ?
But if it did, then the attendant attitudes of questioning, to seek the truth, and reject the falsehood, would bring about the end of Christianity. Christian Clergy knows this. And they are Not going to cut their own throat.
13. Quote: In India poor people are enticed to covert to Christianity
in the name of egalitarianism and after conversions they are asked/encouraged to beg as Dalits!
COMMENT: Christianity & its Bible, are a bunch of Lies, and Christian-Clergy, are Blithering-Idiots. It is a pity that, Hindus are Not counter-attacking to annihilate their BS.
Surinder Paul Attri
Saturday, December 26, 2009
Friday, December 25, 2009
93 pc of Brits to skip the church on Christmas
Subj: 93 pc of Brits to skip the church on Christmas
1. London, Dec 25 : A new survey has revealed that almost 93 per cent of Britons would be skipping the church on Christmas Day.
They would either be spending Christmas eating turkey, drinking champagne or opening presents - but will not attend the church.
The study by Opinion Matters only 11 per cent had the intention of attending Midnight Mass last night on Christmas Eve, while 86 per cent said they sent Christmas cards.
Daily Express columnist Ann Widdecombe told Express.co.uk: "If you''re not going to church on either Christmas Eve or Christmas Day then why are you celebrating Christmas?"
"What does Christmas mean if you are not going to church?" she asked.
The survey also showed that a huge 87 per cent of 16-24-year-olds are opting out, compared with only 72 per cent of over 55s.
Widdecombe said political correctness is the reason for the low attendance figures.
2. My Take:
Reference: almost 93 per cent of Britons would be skipping the church on Christmas Day ( 25 Dec 2009 ). Other Europeans are similar.
COMMENT: How does this Anti-Christian agenda of Europeans in general, and of Britons in particular, hit the Rapacious-Pirates of Christianity, those black-robed beggars, who love to uproot Pagans/Heathens from the soil of Europe ?
Answer: They cannot be excited about what they are seeing, right before their eyes.
Because the medieval Christian image of the Devil ( Satan ), still persists in the minds of these black-robed beggars, and because Christianity blames a totally-imaginary object, a creature of no-existence ( which it names as the Devil ), as the cause of all evil, it is very difficult for them not to see devils & demons, roaming around the streets of Briton & of Europe. The number of such followers of the devil in Briton alone, now runs into millions.
3. No matter how monstrous & extravagant it looks to these black-robed beggars, their dream of uprooting Paganism completely from the soil of Europe ( and from elsewhere ), cannot be realized. The Europeans have decided to be in league with the Devil. Not even their leader,Jesus Christ, can stop the momentum of this outing ( out of Christianity ).
4. Christianity is not, and has never been a religion. Christianity has always been a predatory-ideology. What the Rapacious-Pirates ( dressed as Priests ) are not seeing is:
a. That what the Europeans are rejecting is JUNK
b. That what they ( the Priests of Christianity ) have received is BUM-DOPE
5. Christian Priests would be smart to opt out of Christianity.
Surinder Paul Attri
1. London, Dec 25 : A new survey has revealed that almost 93 per cent of Britons would be skipping the church on Christmas Day.
They would either be spending Christmas eating turkey, drinking champagne or opening presents - but will not attend the church.
The study by Opinion Matters only 11 per cent had the intention of attending Midnight Mass last night on Christmas Eve, while 86 per cent said they sent Christmas cards.
Daily Express columnist Ann Widdecombe told Express.co.uk: "If you''re not going to church on either Christmas Eve or Christmas Day then why are you celebrating Christmas?"
"What does Christmas mean if you are not going to church?" she asked.
The survey also showed that a huge 87 per cent of 16-24-year-olds are opting out, compared with only 72 per cent of over 55s.
Widdecombe said political correctness is the reason for the low attendance figures.
2. My Take:
Reference: almost 93 per cent of Britons would be skipping the church on Christmas Day ( 25 Dec 2009 ). Other Europeans are similar.
COMMENT: How does this Anti-Christian agenda of Europeans in general, and of Britons in particular, hit the Rapacious-Pirates of Christianity, those black-robed beggars, who love to uproot Pagans/Heathens from the soil of Europe ?
Answer: They cannot be excited about what they are seeing, right before their eyes.
Because the medieval Christian image of the Devil ( Satan ), still persists in the minds of these black-robed beggars, and because Christianity blames a totally-imaginary object, a creature of no-existence ( which it names as the Devil ), as the cause of all evil, it is very difficult for them not to see devils & demons, roaming around the streets of Briton & of Europe. The number of such followers of the devil in Briton alone, now runs into millions.
3. No matter how monstrous & extravagant it looks to these black-robed beggars, their dream of uprooting Paganism completely from the soil of Europe ( and from elsewhere ), cannot be realized. The Europeans have decided to be in league with the Devil. Not even their leader,Jesus Christ, can stop the momentum of this outing ( out of Christianity ).
4. Christianity is not, and has never been a religion. Christianity has always been a predatory-ideology. What the Rapacious-Pirates ( dressed as Priests ) are not seeing is:
a. That what the Europeans are rejecting is JUNK
b. That what they ( the Priests of Christianity ) have received is BUM-DOPE
5. Christian Priests would be smart to opt out of Christianity.
Surinder Paul Attri
Linear-Thinking
Subj: Linear-Thinking
1. Ayesha Siddiqa
DAWN
You article on "Linear Thinking: (DAWN, Friday, 25th December, 2009) is written with good intentions. You have skillfully analyzed the uncomfortable reality and the savage truth behind Linear Thinking. But you have deliberately ignored Islamic Linear Thinking.
As a closed, non-compromising, reductionist dogma, Islam is replete with linear thinking. Is it not fair to say, Pakistani politicians are conditioned with Linear thinking because of their Islamic indoctrination? As followers of the closed Islamic dogma, Islamists are compelled to follow linear thinking, since Muslims are trapped in it at an early age. If we are to make any progress, we must dispose of such Linear, reductionist and mechanical thinking.
People who follow linear thinking have always a temptation to simplify problems facing them into clear-cut categories or dichotomies of black or white, right or wrong. For muslims, It is islam vs. kafirs. it is necessary to recognize the broader perspective, wholistic thinking as the best way of looking at a problem. The question we need to raise when choosing a theory for analyzing a complex issue: Is linear thing allow us to include all the varibales? most of the pakistani islamic fundamentalists are using the inappropriate liner thinking in finding a solution for complex problems. It ma be like trying to dig a canal with a spoon. It is necessary to understand systemic thinking and have a wholistic frame of mind for dealing with complex problems. The sooner Pakistani Muslims abandon narrow, sectarian reductionist- Linear Thinking and their exclusive islamic dogmatism, they will be able to embrace democracy, tolerance, humanism, peace and progress.
Thank you for your clear views on Linear Thinking
Dr. Babu Suseelan
2. My Take:
Quote: Islam is replete with linear thinking.
COMMENT: Islam satiated with Linear-Thinking, turns its nose up on Non-Linear Thinking.
3. Quote: As followers of the closed Islamic dogma, Islamists are compelled to follow linear thinking, since Muslims are trapped in it at an early age.
COMMENT: From near the first part of their life, Moslems ( Pakistani politicians included ) soak up a vast amount of Linear-Thinking. Mullahs & Maulvies repeat ad infinitum:
" Stay with me, stay with Mohammad, stay with Quran, stay with Allah and so on. "
This kind of parrot-like Linear-Thinking ( Linear-Message ), which the Mullahs mis-label as Logical-Thinking, buries Moslems into the Black-Hole of Islam. But Moslems can get out of this mental slump, and get out of it, if they develop an attitude of questioning, to seek the truth, and reject the falsehood.
4. Quote: People who follow linear thinking have always a temptation to simplify problems facing them into clear-cut categories or dichotomies of black or white, right or wrong. For muslims, It is islam vs. kafirs.
COMMENT: True, True, True.
Linear-Thinking is an easy way out, for dealing with simple problems, but it gets you stuck when dealing with complex problems. Repeated application of this thinking, gets you stuck in a rut. One definition of rut ( from a friend of mine ) :
" Rut is a coffin without nails. "
In other words, Linear-Thinking is as dead as a cemetry, in the world of today.
5. Quote: The question we need to raise when choosing a theory for analyzing a complex issue: Is linear thing allow us to include all the varibales? most of the pakistani islamic fundamentalists are using the inappropriate liner thinking in finding a solution for complex problems.
COMMENT: That is the Only correct question that we can ask oursleves ( and teach our children ).
It is quite amazing, but it is a matter of common observation that, simplicity does not exist any more in the world of today. In fact, during the last 1400 years of existence of Islam, momentum has shifted away from simplicity, and towards technological complexity of life. It is also a fact that, no body can stop this momentum, not even Islam's Allah.
In the present world of ours, there are hell of a lot more Rotary-Actuators ( Non-Linear ), than there are Linear-Actuators. Pun Intended.
6. Quote: It ma be like trying to dig a canal with a spoon. It is necessary to understand systemic thinking and have a wholistic frame of mind for dealing with complex problems.
COMMENT: It is certainly possible to dig a canal with a spoon, if you are willing to dig long enough, and have longing, longevity, & strength to do it. But it is an In-Adequate procedure, and that is what this observation is all about.
We are living in a crazy, uncertain, and extremely-complex world. A solution design in this kind of world, requires Non-Linear Thinking ( Yanks abbreviate it as NLT ). It is also sometimes referred to as Systems-Thinking & Circular-Thinking, even though no circles are involved, except imaginary ones.
7. Quote: The sooner Pakistani Muslims abandon narrow, sectarian reductionist- Linear Thinking and their exclusive islamic dogmatism, they will be able to embrace democracy, tolerance, humanism, peace and progress.
COMMENT: Stuck in a long-existing Linear-Formula ( mis-labelled as Logical-Formula by Mullahs & Maulvies ), Moslems of Pakistan would find it hell of a job, to whittle down the monster of their Linear-Thinking.
But if they could, it would change their life, and that of the world, for the better.
8. To summarize, I totally concur with Dr. Suseelan Jee that:
NLT is the real thing to do.
Surinder Paul Attri
1. Ayesha Siddiqa
DAWN
You article on "Linear Thinking: (DAWN, Friday, 25th December, 2009) is written with good intentions. You have skillfully analyzed the uncomfortable reality and the savage truth behind Linear Thinking. But you have deliberately ignored Islamic Linear Thinking.
As a closed, non-compromising, reductionist dogma, Islam is replete with linear thinking. Is it not fair to say, Pakistani politicians are conditioned with Linear thinking because of their Islamic indoctrination? As followers of the closed Islamic dogma, Islamists are compelled to follow linear thinking, since Muslims are trapped in it at an early age. If we are to make any progress, we must dispose of such Linear, reductionist and mechanical thinking.
People who follow linear thinking have always a temptation to simplify problems facing them into clear-cut categories or dichotomies of black or white, right or wrong. For muslims, It is islam vs. kafirs. it is necessary to recognize the broader perspective, wholistic thinking as the best way of looking at a problem. The question we need to raise when choosing a theory for analyzing a complex issue: Is linear thing allow us to include all the varibales? most of the pakistani islamic fundamentalists are using the inappropriate liner thinking in finding a solution for complex problems. It ma be like trying to dig a canal with a spoon. It is necessary to understand systemic thinking and have a wholistic frame of mind for dealing with complex problems. The sooner Pakistani Muslims abandon narrow, sectarian reductionist- Linear Thinking and their exclusive islamic dogmatism, they will be able to embrace democracy, tolerance, humanism, peace and progress.
Thank you for your clear views on Linear Thinking
Dr. Babu Suseelan
2. My Take:
Quote: Islam is replete with linear thinking.
COMMENT: Islam satiated with Linear-Thinking, turns its nose up on Non-Linear Thinking.
3. Quote: As followers of the closed Islamic dogma, Islamists are compelled to follow linear thinking, since Muslims are trapped in it at an early age.
COMMENT: From near the first part of their life, Moslems ( Pakistani politicians included ) soak up a vast amount of Linear-Thinking. Mullahs & Maulvies repeat ad infinitum:
" Stay with me, stay with Mohammad, stay with Quran, stay with Allah and so on. "
This kind of parrot-like Linear-Thinking ( Linear-Message ), which the Mullahs mis-label as Logical-Thinking, buries Moslems into the Black-Hole of Islam. But Moslems can get out of this mental slump, and get out of it, if they develop an attitude of questioning, to seek the truth, and reject the falsehood.
4. Quote: People who follow linear thinking have always a temptation to simplify problems facing them into clear-cut categories or dichotomies of black or white, right or wrong. For muslims, It is islam vs. kafirs.
COMMENT: True, True, True.
Linear-Thinking is an easy way out, for dealing with simple problems, but it gets you stuck when dealing with complex problems. Repeated application of this thinking, gets you stuck in a rut. One definition of rut ( from a friend of mine ) :
" Rut is a coffin without nails. "
In other words, Linear-Thinking is as dead as a cemetry, in the world of today.
5. Quote: The question we need to raise when choosing a theory for analyzing a complex issue: Is linear thing allow us to include all the varibales? most of the pakistani islamic fundamentalists are using the inappropriate liner thinking in finding a solution for complex problems.
COMMENT: That is the Only correct question that we can ask oursleves ( and teach our children ).
It is quite amazing, but it is a matter of common observation that, simplicity does not exist any more in the world of today. In fact, during the last 1400 years of existence of Islam, momentum has shifted away from simplicity, and towards technological complexity of life. It is also a fact that, no body can stop this momentum, not even Islam's Allah.
In the present world of ours, there are hell of a lot more Rotary-Actuators ( Non-Linear ), than there are Linear-Actuators. Pun Intended.
6. Quote: It ma be like trying to dig a canal with a spoon. It is necessary to understand systemic thinking and have a wholistic frame of mind for dealing with complex problems.
COMMENT: It is certainly possible to dig a canal with a spoon, if you are willing to dig long enough, and have longing, longevity, & strength to do it. But it is an In-Adequate procedure, and that is what this observation is all about.
We are living in a crazy, uncertain, and extremely-complex world. A solution design in this kind of world, requires Non-Linear Thinking ( Yanks abbreviate it as NLT ). It is also sometimes referred to as Systems-Thinking & Circular-Thinking, even though no circles are involved, except imaginary ones.
7. Quote: The sooner Pakistani Muslims abandon narrow, sectarian reductionist- Linear Thinking and their exclusive islamic dogmatism, they will be able to embrace democracy, tolerance, humanism, peace and progress.
COMMENT: Stuck in a long-existing Linear-Formula ( mis-labelled as Logical-Formula by Mullahs & Maulvies ), Moslems of Pakistan would find it hell of a job, to whittle down the monster of their Linear-Thinking.
But if they could, it would change their life, and that of the world, for the better.
8. To summarize, I totally concur with Dr. Suseelan Jee that:
NLT is the real thing to do.
Surinder Paul Attri
Thursday, December 24, 2009
Response to Poonam Jee's message
Subj: Response to Poonam Jee's message
1. Namaste Sir,
I respect your comments. The choice of the word s*** was deliberate, & not because I could not have used a better "more asthetic" word. But sometimes it helps in more ways than one to be realistic & depict the reality. The depiction of the disgusting reality of our lives, systems & society should be...must be done by us. That will be one way of not only us acknowledging & trying to correct our flaws & faults & clean it up, but will also make it less financially attractive for the s***ty foreigners to come & cash on it & misrepresent it to malign us.
2. My Take:
Namaste to you also, Poonam Jee.
3. Quote: I respect your comments
COMMENT: Thanks.
4. Quote: The choice of the word s*** was deliberate, & not because I could not have used a better "more asthetic" word.
COMMENT: I know it was. No need to apologize. Language is only a means to communicate, not to rise socially in life.
5. Quote: But sometimes it helps in more ways than one to be realistic & depict the reality.
COMMENT: This barnyard term, does cut down lot of verbiage.
6. Quote: The depiction of the disgusting reality of our lives, systems & society should be...must be done by us. That will be one way of not only us acknowledging & trying to correct our flaws & faults & clean it up, but will also make it less financially attractive for the s***ty foreigners to come & cash on it & misrepresent it to malign us.
COMMENT: Covering of flaws does not work.
Foreigners uncover ours, and we un-sheath theirs.
We are always ready to take them on, and pick on their observations, which are inaccurate or mis-placed.
Surinder Paul Attri
1. Namaste Sir,
I respect your comments. The choice of the word s*** was deliberate, & not because I could not have used a better "more asthetic" word. But sometimes it helps in more ways than one to be realistic & depict the reality. The depiction of the disgusting reality of our lives, systems & society should be...must be done by us. That will be one way of not only us acknowledging & trying to correct our flaws & faults & clean it up, but will also make it less financially attractive for the s***ty foreigners to come & cash on it & misrepresent it to malign us.
2. My Take:
Namaste to you also, Poonam Jee.
3. Quote: I respect your comments
COMMENT: Thanks.
4. Quote: The choice of the word s*** was deliberate, & not because I could not have used a better "more asthetic" word.
COMMENT: I know it was. No need to apologize. Language is only a means to communicate, not to rise socially in life.
5. Quote: But sometimes it helps in more ways than one to be realistic & depict the reality.
COMMENT: This barnyard term, does cut down lot of verbiage.
6. Quote: The depiction of the disgusting reality of our lives, systems & society should be...must be done by us. That will be one way of not only us acknowledging & trying to correct our flaws & faults & clean it up, but will also make it less financially attractive for the s***ty foreigners to come & cash on it & misrepresent it to malign us.
COMMENT: Covering of flaws does not work.
Foreigners uncover ours, and we un-sheath theirs.
We are always ready to take them on, and pick on their observations, which are inaccurate or mis-placed.
Surinder Paul Attri
ISLAM'S DERRING-DO OF HYPOCRISY
ISLAM'S DERRING-DO OF HYPOCRISY
By S.P. Attri ( USA )
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1. On New Year's Eve, a massive Ad, carefully organized by CAIR ( Council on American-Islamic Relations ), will appear on Time Square, New Year disposing that:
" Islam Is A Religion Of Peace. "
Alongside, there are going to be plenty of snapshots of prominent & highly successful Moslems, each one claiming:
" I am Muslim, I am American. "
CAIR has no remorse in sticking this Disgraceful-Jargon to New Yorkers, the same city where their co-religionists murdered over 3000 New Yorkers ( Twin-Towers Blast )..
2. Islam the religion of peace ? What horse-sh** ? Why ?
Because it covers the truth of the subject, particularly that this Peaceful religion of Islam & its high-voltage barbarian Sullas have sent hundreds of millions of Kafirs ( Non-Moslem Infidels ) to Hell.
The first part of the statement " I am Muslim, who will enjoy damsels in Janat/Moslems Paradise " is true, but the latter saying " I am American " is false, because Moslems can never be part of Kafir-Americans, who shall burn in Hell-Fire. Moslems want to bring Jehad to these hateful Kafir-Americans.
3. Moslems are taught that:
Moslems are Allah's Party, and the Non-Moslems ( such as Non-Moslem Americans ) are Shaitaan's (Satan ) Party, and an Un-Ending war between these two groups, has been ordered by Hazrat Mohammad.
In Allah's battle, anything goes, and Moslems work over time to cover up the truth of this procedure, in order to keep the ignorance level of the Kafirs ( Kafir Americans included ) at the highest level. For Moslems, it is a game of bluffing the hateful Kafirs, which is accepted by Mohammad & Allah. There is no Geneva Convention in Allah's war against Kafirs.
4. A prominent Moslem lawyer ( chairman of society of Moslem lawyers & preacher ), 41 year old Anjem Choudhary, who praised Mumbai-Massacre as a glorious event, is telling Moslems that:
" Christmas is condemnable, its celebration is forbidden by Allah. Decorating house, buying Chrismas tree, or having Christmas turkey dinners, are completely prohibited by Allah, their observance will lead to Hell-Fire. "
5. This is the political temperature of Islam. Five years from now, the USA & the rest of the Kafir world, will be a much more dangerous place than it is today. The policy of phoney-liberalism in the USA, Europe, and India, will turn millions of Allah's Moslems, against the Kafirs of the world. This will be the Dark New World.
Islamic Hypocrisy as a religion of peace, will succeed not due to soundness or strength of Islam, but due to gaping ignorance of Kafirs ( Non-Moslem Infidels ).
Surinder Paul Attri
By S.P. Attri ( USA )
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1. On New Year's Eve, a massive Ad, carefully organized by CAIR ( Council on American-Islamic Relations ), will appear on Time Square, New Year disposing that:
" Islam Is A Religion Of Peace. "
Alongside, there are going to be plenty of snapshots of prominent & highly successful Moslems, each one claiming:
" I am Muslim, I am American. "
CAIR has no remorse in sticking this Disgraceful-Jargon to New Yorkers, the same city where their co-religionists murdered over 3000 New Yorkers ( Twin-Towers Blast )..
2. Islam the religion of peace ? What horse-sh** ? Why ?
Because it covers the truth of the subject, particularly that this Peaceful religion of Islam & its high-voltage barbarian Sullas have sent hundreds of millions of Kafirs ( Non-Moslem Infidels ) to Hell.
The first part of the statement " I am Muslim, who will enjoy damsels in Janat/Moslems Paradise " is true, but the latter saying " I am American " is false, because Moslems can never be part of Kafir-Americans, who shall burn in Hell-Fire. Moslems want to bring Jehad to these hateful Kafir-Americans.
3. Moslems are taught that:
Moslems are Allah's Party, and the Non-Moslems ( such as Non-Moslem Americans ) are Shaitaan's (Satan ) Party, and an Un-Ending war between these two groups, has been ordered by Hazrat Mohammad.
In Allah's battle, anything goes, and Moslems work over time to cover up the truth of this procedure, in order to keep the ignorance level of the Kafirs ( Kafir Americans included ) at the highest level. For Moslems, it is a game of bluffing the hateful Kafirs, which is accepted by Mohammad & Allah. There is no Geneva Convention in Allah's war against Kafirs.
4. A prominent Moslem lawyer ( chairman of society of Moslem lawyers & preacher ), 41 year old Anjem Choudhary, who praised Mumbai-Massacre as a glorious event, is telling Moslems that:
" Christmas is condemnable, its celebration is forbidden by Allah. Decorating house, buying Chrismas tree, or having Christmas turkey dinners, are completely prohibited by Allah, their observance will lead to Hell-Fire. "
5. This is the political temperature of Islam. Five years from now, the USA & the rest of the Kafir world, will be a much more dangerous place than it is today. The policy of phoney-liberalism in the USA, Europe, and India, will turn millions of Allah's Moslems, against the Kafirs of the world. This will be the Dark New World.
Islamic Hypocrisy as a religion of peace, will succeed not due to soundness or strength of Islam, but due to gaping ignorance of Kafirs ( Non-Moslem Infidels ).
Surinder Paul Attri
Caste System
Subj: Caste System
> 1. My point exactly...we are all running after the golden
> deer. Inspite of making so much noise about Raam Janma
> Bhoomi, Raam Setu, Raam Raajya etc., we are totally ignoring
> to learn one of the most important lessons of
> Ramayan...there is no deer with golden skin...even Raam Ji
> had to go through years of torture & Sita Ji through
> public humiliation as consequence of their desire for the
> golden deer. And, yes, the brahmans, their claims that they
> were created by Brahma from the head of Vishnu, the
> Kshatriyas from the shoulders, the Vaishyas from the abdomen
> & so they are higher in the hierarchy, & the
> Shoodras are lowly because they were created from the feet
> of Vishnu & were created for the sole purpose of serving
> the higher castes, okay, agreed. But then, why are the top 3
> castes in the proverbial "deep shit" of hatred
> from the "Shoodras?" Because they forgot that the
> basic sanitation had been delegated to the shoodras...all
> those tasks that are
>
> absolutely important for the oh so clean existence of the
> upper castes. When you starve the very people who are
> supposed to do your dirty work, they will not be able to
> perform their "duty" & will result in ahe
> mess. Do we neglect our feet & pay more attention to our
> heads? Why did these brilliant upper caste people forget
> that the society is like a body...each part is equally
> important, including those parts that create only
> "shit"?
>
> Sorry, but if you can, please put this in more asthetic
> words.
> Namaste
> Poonam
>
> 2. My Take:
> Quote: My point exactly...we are all running after the
> golden deer. Inspite of making so much noise about Raam
> Janma Bhoomi, Raam Setu, Raam Raajya etc., we are totally
> ignoring to learn one of the most important lessons of
> Ramayan...there is no deer with golden skin...even Raam Ji
> had to go through years of torture & Sita Ji through
> public humiliation as consequence of their desire for the
> golden deer. And, yes, the brahmans, their claims that they
> were created by Brahma from the head of Vishnu, the
> Kshatriyas from the shoulders, the Vaishyas from the abdomen
> & so they are higher in the hierarchy, & the
> Shoodras are lowly because they were created from the feet
> of Vishnu & were created for the sole purpose of serving
> the higher castes, okay, agreed.
>
> COMMENT: Regarding the statement " ...there is no deer
> with golden skin " Golden deer do not exist, but
> there are stories of deer with golden antlers.
>
> Quote: And, yes, the brahmans, their claims that they were
> created by Brahma from the head of Vishnu, the Kshatriyas
> from the shoulders, the Vaishyas from the abdomen & so
> they are higher in the hierarchy, & the Shoodras are
> lowly because they were created from the feet of Vishnu
> & were created for the sole purpose of serving the
> higher castes, okay, agreed.
>
>
> COMMENT: Here you are talking about our Hindu Caste System.
>
> I have taken a stand against the caste system, for at least
> 25 years, because it is a hier-archical system, a
> differential system, a system of superiority &
> inferiority of humans by birth, contradistinct from equality
> before law. I have proposed an Integral system, named
> Integral-Hinduism ( a totally casteless Hinduism ) in its
> place.
>
>
> Critics of caste system often cite Hindu scriptures,
> sanctioning the practice of caste system. They fail to
> realize that Hindu scriptures have two types of messages:
> Timely i.e Time-Dependent, belonging only to the people of
> the period, in which they are produced
>
> AND
> Timeless i.e. Time-Independent, that are restricted to no
> time, they are eternal & applicalble to all ages.
>
> It is self-evident that Caste System is a Timely System,
> and conditions now are totally different from when caste
> system was first devised. Caste system is a social system,
> although it is considered a system of the Hindu religion,
> because Hindus practise it. Social systems ( and their
> components, caste system included ) change & must
> change.
>
>
> Initially caste system was Non-Hereditary, but its practice
> for a long long time, made it rigid & inelastic. At this
> point in time,caste system is Totally-Obsolete.
> Caste system has been changing, is changing, and will
> continue to change. Hinduism is moving toward
> Integral-Hinduism. It will take a few generations to
> eliminate caste system completely.
>
>
> 3. Quote: ...each part is equally important, including
> those parts that create only "shit"?
> Sorry, but if you can, please put this in more asthetic
> words.
>
> COMMENT: SH** is a frequently-used word in the US. Even in
> India, people use this word, not for any scientific reason.
> Indians possibly feel that " Americans have got it
> right. "
>
>
> Surinder Paul Attri
> 1. My point exactly...we are all running after the golden
> deer. Inspite of making so much noise about Raam Janma
> Bhoomi, Raam Setu, Raam Raajya etc., we are totally ignoring
> to learn one of the most important lessons of
> Ramayan...there is no deer with golden skin...even Raam Ji
> had to go through years of torture & Sita Ji through
> public humiliation as consequence of their desire for the
> golden deer. And, yes, the brahmans, their claims that they
> were created by Brahma from the head of Vishnu, the
> Kshatriyas from the shoulders, the Vaishyas from the abdomen
> & so they are higher in the hierarchy, & the
> Shoodras are lowly because they were created from the feet
> of Vishnu & were created for the sole purpose of serving
> the higher castes, okay, agreed. But then, why are the top 3
> castes in the proverbial "deep shit" of hatred
> from the "Shoodras?" Because they forgot that the
> basic sanitation had been delegated to the shoodras...all
> those tasks that are
>
> absolutely important for the oh so clean existence of the
> upper castes. When you starve the very people who are
> supposed to do your dirty work, they will not be able to
> perform their "duty" & will result in ahe
> mess. Do we neglect our feet & pay more attention to our
> heads? Why did these brilliant upper caste people forget
> that the society is like a body...each part is equally
> important, including those parts that create only
> "shit"?
>
> Sorry, but if you can, please put this in more asthetic
> words.
> Namaste
> Poonam
>
> 2. My Take:
> Quote: My point exactly...we are all running after the
> golden deer. Inspite of making so much noise about Raam
> Janma Bhoomi, Raam Setu, Raam Raajya etc., we are totally
> ignoring to learn one of the most important lessons of
> Ramayan...there is no deer with golden skin...even Raam Ji
> had to go through years of torture & Sita Ji through
> public humiliation as consequence of their desire for the
> golden deer. And, yes, the brahmans, their claims that they
> were created by Brahma from the head of Vishnu, the
> Kshatriyas from the shoulders, the Vaishyas from the abdomen
> & so they are higher in the hierarchy, & the
> Shoodras are lowly because they were created from the feet
> of Vishnu & were created for the sole purpose of serving
> the higher castes, okay, agreed.
>
> COMMENT: Regarding the statement " ...there is no deer
> with golden skin " Golden deer do not exist, but
> there are stories of deer with golden antlers.
>
> Quote: And, yes, the brahmans, their claims that they were
> created by Brahma from the head of Vishnu, the Kshatriyas
> from the shoulders, the Vaishyas from the abdomen & so
> they are higher in the hierarchy, & the Shoodras are
> lowly because they were created from the feet of Vishnu
> & were created for the sole purpose of serving the
> higher castes, okay, agreed.
>
>
> COMMENT: Here you are talking about our Hindu Caste System.
>
> I have taken a stand against the caste system, for at least
> 25 years, because it is a hier-archical system, a
> differential system, a system of superiority &
> inferiority of humans by birth, contradistinct from equality
> before law. I have proposed an Integral system, named
> Integral-Hinduism ( a totally casteless Hinduism ) in its
> place.
>
>
> Critics of caste system often cite Hindu scriptures,
> sanctioning the practice of caste system. They fail to
> realize that Hindu scriptures have two types of messages:
> Timely i.e Time-Dependent, belonging only to the people of
> the period, in which they are produced
>
> AND
> Timeless i.e. Time-Independent, that are restricted to no
> time, they are eternal & applicalble to all ages.
>
> It is self-evident that Caste System is a Timely System,
> and conditions now are totally different from when caste
> system was first devised. Caste system is a social system,
> although it is considered a system of the Hindu religion,
> because Hindus practise it. Social systems ( and their
> components, caste system included ) change & must
> change.
>
>
> Initially caste system was Non-Hereditary, but its practice
> for a long long time, made it rigid & inelastic. At this
> point in time,caste system is Totally-Obsolete.
> Caste system has been changing, is changing, and will
> continue to change. Hinduism is moving toward
> Integral-Hinduism. It will take a few generations to
> eliminate caste system completely.
>
>
> 3. Quote: ...each part is equally important, including
> those parts that create only "shit"?
> Sorry, but if you can, please put this in more asthetic
> words.
>
> COMMENT: SH** is a frequently-used word in the US. Even in
> India, people use this word, not for any scientific reason.
> Indians possibly feel that " Americans have got it
> right. "
>
>
> Surinder Paul Attri
Wednesday, December 23, 2009
Latvian vis a vis Sanskrit
Subj: Latvian vis a vis Sanskrit
1. Very interesting and keep up the Spirit- to help credibility of ancient scripts.
I happen to meet a few US citizens of Latvian origin in 2001
Vidyardhi Nanduri
2. My Take:
Among the European languages, all of which ( except Finnish & Basque of Northern Spain ) are Indo-European languages, Latvian language is the Closest to Sanskrit.
Surinder Paul Attri
1. Very interesting and keep up the Spirit- to help credibility of ancient scripts.
I happen to meet a few US citizens of Latvian origin in 2001
Vidyardhi Nanduri
2. My Take:
Among the European languages, all of which ( except Finnish & Basque of Northern Spain ) are Indo-European languages, Latvian language is the Closest to Sanskrit.
Surinder Paul Attri
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