Monday, July 14, 2008

The only hope for Hindus of Kashmir1

Subj: The only hope for Hindus of Kashmir
1. The only hope for my Kashmiri Hindu brothers and sisters is we take care of each other...i.e Hindu Brahmins take care of each other as the rest of the Hindus in India don't give a damn.....

2. My Take:This is " Not The Only Expectation " for the Hindus of Jammu & Kashmir ( J & K ).Hindus of J & K can take up arms.Hindus of India can arm their J & K Hindu allies. There is " Absolutely No Reason At All " not to furnish the Hindus of J & K with weapons.

3. The problem in J & K is exactly the same, as it is in the rest of India. At both places, Hindus are led by WKOP ( wrong kind of people ). These WKOPs don't have what it takes to do the job, of Hinduism Defense. They cannot cut the mustard.
Surinder Paul Attri

5 comments:

surinder attri said...

Subj: Response to Nishi Jee
Submitted by NISHI (India), Aug 26, 2008 at 10:10
Mahamahim Dear Sri S P Attri Ji Maharaj,
It appears that You are very much under the influence of 'Islamophobia', but you writings give the glimpse that you are not aware of the meaning of this term, hence here is the definition of this word,"British Runnymede Trust defined Islamophobia as the "dread or hatred of Islam and therefore, to the fear and dislike of all Muslims," stating that it also refers to the behavior of excluding Muslims from the "economic, social, and public life of the nation." It includes the perception that Islam has no values in common with other cultures, is inferior to the West, is a violent political ideology rather than a religion, and that discriminatory practices against Muslims are justified."
Kindly take help of your friend Parikshit (Proud Indian), who never loses an opportunity to do Fawning of Bush and his sycophants.
Several times in my posts I requested all of you to please read some good books before blindly adopting line of Bush & his coterie. Failing to do so gives overwhelming conclusion that you people are not interested in gaining constructive knowledge but are doing your job like a paid servant of your Master Bush.
It is also requested that kindly enlighten us about your views upon latest judgment of Lucknow Court where no evidence was found against a Muslim who was charged for sedition etc. Although you people had already found him guilty of all charges during Media trial, but the Court found otherwise. Also enlighten the readers about your comment upon Kanpur & Nagpur Blasts where Bajrang Dal & RSS activists died while preparing Bombs using modern devices. What are you views about Malegaon RSS person from whose house Beards, Caps of Muslims, Kurta & Pajamas were recovered after Malegaon Blast. Throw some light upon Orissa killing of a Nun who was burnt alive by VHP activists (although proud Indian will reply that alright she was burnt alive but not flogged).
Hey all you people come and take some rest, and recharge your batteries to reply all such uneasy questions of people in future
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1.My Take:
No Nishi Jee. I am not under the pressure of Islamophobia. I fear neither the Moslems nor their Islam. I am telling it like it is.
No, Nishi Jee. I am not a toady of Bush. Bush is a politician, he is kicking the A** of Moslems in Afghanistan & Iraq, but is double-talking by saying that:
“ Terrorism is due to the actions of some misguided-Moslems, but the religion of Islam is good. “

What I am saying is that:
Islam is evil

2. What I am saying is the Anti-thesis of Bush’s dictum. I am not hiding behind political double-talk, but stating flat out that:
Islam is an Imperialist political ideology ( doctrine ). It is a lethal doctrine that has done colossal damage to innocent Kafir-Humanity, and will do more damage, as long as it survives.
The 1400 year old record of Islam, fully endorses my assertion.

3. Regarding Discrimination ( pointed out in your definition of Islamophobia ):
In the ordinary business of life, you have to discern the qualities of entities, recognize differences between, what is good & what is not, between what works & what does not, between wheat & chaff, between chalk & cheese, and so on & on.

It is not smart to bow to evil ( for fear of being accused of discrimination ), but it is very smart to confront it.

4. Regarding reading books on Islam, to educate myself: I have done that, including the Islamic-Manual of Quran, which is the basic blue-print of Evil, and a gospel of hate ( loaded with hatred of Kafirs/Non-Moslem Infidels ). Quran calls upon the Moslems to engage in Jehad ( Holy-War ), for the conquest of Kafir people & territories, anything to the contrary is immoral. Islam has shed colossal amount of Kafir blood, through its Holy-Wars. Islam is the culprit.

5. Nishi Jee: If you look around the airports in Europe & USA ( and possibly elsewhere as well ), you will notice that airport-inspectors ( and other airport employees ), are always keeping a hawk’s eye on Moslems ( but not on Non-Moslems ). They are doing this not because they are mean or dishonorable, but because they don’t want their airplanes to be blown out of the sky. It is the Karma ( Evil-Karma/Evil Deeds ) of Islam, that is putting Moslems under the scanner, not the mean-ness of the airport employees.

6. Nishi Jee: You ought to ask yourself, with an open & relaxed mind:
How many of your Kafir-ancestors were murdered, by the soldiers of Hazrat Mohammad, or were your ancestors the ones, who did the murdering ?

Surinder Paul Attri

surinder attri said...

Subj: Response to Nishi Jee
Submitted by NISHI (India), Aug 26, 2008 at 10:10
Mahamahim Dear Sri S P Attri Ji Maharaj,
It appears that You are very much under the influence of 'Islamophobia', but you writings give the glimpse that you are not aware of the meaning of this term, hence here is the definition of this word,"British Runnymede Trust defined Islamophobia as the "dread or hatred of Islam and therefore, to the fear and dislike of all Muslims," stating that it also refers to the behavior of excluding Muslims from the "economic, social, and public life of the nation." It includes the perception that Islam has no values in common with other cultures, is inferior to the West, is a violent political ideology rather than a religion, and that discriminatory practices against Muslims are justified."
Kindly take help of your friend Parikshit (Proud Indian), who never loses an opportunity to do Fawning of Bush and his sycophants.
Several times in my posts I requested all of you to please read some good books before blindly adopting line of Bush & his coterie. Failing to do so gives overwhelming conclusion that you people are not interested in gaining constructive knowledge but are doing your job like a paid servant of your Master Bush.
It is also requested that kindly enlighten us about your views upon latest judgment of Lucknow Court where no evidence was found against a Muslim who was charged for sedition etc. Although you people had already found him guilty of all charges during Media trial, but the Court found otherwise. Also enlighten the readers about your comment upon Kanpur & Nagpur Blasts where Bajrang Dal & RSS activists died while preparing Bombs using modern devices. What are you views about Malegaon RSS person from whose house Beards, Caps of Muslims, Kurta & Pajamas were recovered after Malegaon Blast. Throw some light upon Orissa killing of a Nun who was burnt alive by VHP activists (although proud Indian will reply that alright she was burnt alive but not flogged).
Hey all you people come and take some rest, and recharge your batteries to reply all such uneasy questions of people in future
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1.My Take:
No Nishi Jee. I am not under the pressure of Islamophobia. I fear neither the Moslems nor their Islam. I am telling it like it is.
No, Nishi Jee. I am not a toady of Bush. Bush is a politician, he is kicking the A** of Moslems in Afghanistan & Iraq, but is double-talking by saying that:
“ Terrorism is due to the actions of some misguided-Moslems, but the religion of Islam is good. “

What I am saying is that:
Islam is evil

2. What I am saying is the Anti-thesis of Bush’s dictum. I am not hiding behind political double-talk, but stating flat out that:
Islam is an Imperialist political ideology ( doctrine ). It is a lethal doctrine that has done colossal damage to innocent Kafir-Humanity, and will do more damage, as long as it survives.
The 1400 year old record of Islam, fully endorses my assertion.

3. Regarding Discrimination ( pointed out in your definition of Islamophobia ):
In the ordinary business of life, you have to discern the qualities of entities, recognize differences between, what is good & what is not, between what works & what does not, between wheat & chaff, between chalk & cheese, and so on & on.

It is not smart to bow to evil ( for fear of being accused of discrimination ), but it is very smart to confront it.

4. Regarding reading books on Islam, to educate myself: I have done that, including the Islamic-Manual of Quran, which is the basic blue-print of Evil, and a gospel of hate ( loaded with hatred of Kafirs/Non-Moslem Infidels ). Quran calls upon the Moslems to engage in Jehad ( Holy-War ), for the conquest of Kafir people & territories, anything to the contrary is immoral. Islam has shed colossal amount of Kafir blood, through its Holy-Wars. Islam is the culprit.

5. Nishi Jee: If you look around the airports in Europe & USA ( and possibly elsewhere as well ), you will notice that airport-inspectors ( and other airport employees ), are always keeping a hawk’s eye on Moslems ( but not on Non-Moslems ). They are doing this not because they are mean or dishonorable, but because they don’t want their airplanes to be blown out of the sky. It is the Karma ( Evil-Karma/Evil Deeds ) of Islam, that is putting Moslems under the scanner, not the mean-ness of the airport employees.

6. Nishi Jee: You ought to ask yourself, with an open & relaxed mind:
How many of your Kafir-ancestors were murdered, by the soldiers of Hazrat Mohammad, or were your ancestors the ones, who did the murdering ?

Surinder Paul Attri

surinder attri said...

Subj: Response to Shri Proud Indian Jee

Submitted by Proud Indian (India), Aug 25, 2008 at 03:14

Dear Attriji,

I would like to comment on the post which you have posted. It is common amongst muslims to put forth their minority status whenever they do something wrong and are caught for it! It is people like Shabana Azmi who shamelessly parade the "minority" card whenever her community comes under any investigative agency's perview or forment trouble.

Case i) Mohammad Azharruddin served as India's cricket captian for 10 years.. we all loved his game and i am sure the cricketers wouldn't have hesitated to play under this muslim! but the day he was caught for hobnobbing with bookies and accepting cash to throw away matches, he was banned!!! what did he do? come up with the statement that he was victimised because he was muslim!

...he conviniently forgot that even hindus like AJAY JADEJA, NAYAN MONGIA, MANOJ PRABHAKAR, were banned.. and does he think that BCCI was ignorant that he was not a muslim before they made him the captain of INDIA? who was he fooling?

Case 2) Salman Khan was jailed for hunting an endangered species of deer.. guess was did he do?? started reading the koran and wore a skull cap whenever he was taken to court.. He instantly was made a poster boy of the "wronged muslim"

...if the majority of the indian population i.e hindus, flock to theatres to see his movies.. they pay hard earned money to see their superstar on the big screen. I am sure he doesn't mind.., but when he is incarcerated for a crime, he immediately becomes a muslim who has been framed by the majority!

Shabana Azmi claims that she was denied a place in mumbai because she was muslim? has she gone nuts? no society wants film celebrities to stay in their localities.. we had one in our locality and we were fed up with the late night parties and starry brawls which use to take place. .. not to mention incessant fans and c grade news channels looking for a sound byte make life a hell... So if a locality bans film personalities then even hindus actors and actresses find it difficult to find a place.

No one minds an Azim Premji,our ex president APJ Abdul Kalam Azad staying but actors? no way.. to top it off loud mouths like shabana azmi? NOT WORTH..

Thats why i say.. radicals are dangerous but people like shabana azmi are the wolves in the sheep's clothing

regards,

Proud Indian

1. My Take:

Shri Proud Indian Jee:

I concur with you.

2. Quote: I would like to comment on the post which you have posted. It is common amongst muslims to put forth their minority status whenever they do something wrong and are caught for it! It is people like Shabana Azmi who shamelessly parade the "minority" card whenever her community comes under any investigative agency's perview or forment trouble.

COMMENT: Yes, they do parade the Minority-Card, but this card is as phoney, as a three dollar bill.

3. Quote: Case i) Mohammad Azharruddin served as India's cricket captian for 10 years.. we all loved his game and i am sure the cricketers wouldn't have hesitated to play under this muslim! but the day he was caught for hobnobbing with bookies and accepting cash to throw away matches, he was banned!!! what did he do? come up with the statement that he was victimised because he was muslim!

COMMENT: Mohammad Azharruddin is throwing a smoke-screedn, game-playing to avoid being nailed down. It is a cowardly act, to avert responsibility for misdeeds.

4. Quote: Case 2) Salman Khan was jailed for hunting an endangered species of deer.. guess was did he do?? started reading the koran and wore a skull cap whenever he was taken to court.. He instantly was made a poster boy of the "wronged muslim"

...if the majority of the indian population i.e hindus, flock to theatres to see his movies.. they pay hard earned money to see their superstar on the big screen. I am sure he doesn't mind.., but when he is incarcerated for a crime, he immediately becomes a muslim who has been framed by the majority!

COMMENT: Wearing a Persecution-Cap ( for being a Minority-Muslim ) is an ingenious trick. It comes in handy, to get the sympathies of the court & of the press. Salman Khan may not have any use for the Hindu Religion, but he loves the Hindu-Money. It makes him laugh all the way to the bank.

5. Quote: Shabana Azmi claims that she was denied a place in mumbai because she was muslim? has she gone nuts? no society wants film celebrities to stay in their localities.. we had one in our locality and we were fed up with the late night parties and starry brawls which use to take place. .. not to mention incessant fans and c grade news channels looking for a sound byte make life a hell... So if a locality bans film personalities then even hindus actors and actresses find it difficult to find a place.

COMMENT: Shabana needs to look at the broad picture. Islam has spread through sword & coercion. It hardly cares for the human mind, it cares even less for Kafir’s life. Islam’s tolerance of Kafir religions is Nill. Islam’s Moslems are always trouble-makers, for people who do not subscribe to their evil ideology of Islam. Islam’s concept of religion is the destruction of Non-Moslem religions & Non-Moslem people ( the Kafirs ). Moslems have never learned that they need to co-exist, with Non-Moslem religions & people. They are not likely to undergo any behavior change either, because their Islam tells them that Kafirs are the most Wretched people, fit only for the fires of Hell. Islam & Moslems reputation follows wherever they go.

Who would want such an obnoxious religion ( & person subscribing to this doctrine ) in his house or in his neighborhood ? Hindus are being defensive. Shabana ought to put herself in the other guy’s shoes.

She is not being logical. She is acting like a pig, dirtying the place, where she resides.

Surinder Paul Attri

surinder attri said...

Subj: Murder of Swami Lakshmanananda & four others
1. Jelaspota (Orissa), August 28: While violence rages across Kandhamal district, in the ashram, where its spark was lit when Swami Lakshmanananda Saraswati and four others were killed on August 24, the adults are angry, the children traumatised.
Many of the 130 girls in the Kanya Ashram, a residential school on the campus, were eyewitnesses to the killing of the VHP leader and that incident has burnt memories they will never forget.
"First, we thought someone is bursting crackers and so we ran towards the main gate. Then we saw and heard people screaming and running. There was blood all over the place. Swamiji and Mataji and others were lying in blood. I shouted and ran away, we all started running here and there," said 15-year old Anita Pradhan. She is from Raikia and has been in the ashram for three years.
According to Anita, it was around 7 in the evening, prayer time in the students' quarters. Swamiji and Mataji Bhaktimoyee, head of the girls hostel, were inside Swamiji's room adjacent to the main entrance.
According to eyewitnesses, 10 to 15 men climbed the wall and started firing indiscriminately. They first shot dead Amritanandji, a disciple of Swamiji. The attackers then entered a small room, home to Prabhati Ganta, the guardian of one of the students who was living there. They shot him, too. Later, Kishore Baba, a resident of Boudh, was shot just outside this room.
It was then that they broke open Saraswati's room. "Swamiji ran into the toilet to save himself and shut the door. Mataji, who hid behind the door, was shot first. The miscreants then broke open the toilet door and sprayed bullets," said an eyewitness.
Vijaylaxmi Mullick, a Class X student at the ashram, is too traumatised to narrate the incident. Her voice trembles and falters as she remembers. "I rushed towards the main gate along with others only to see some men running around and loud cracking noise. I heard the cries of Swamiji and others. I saw other Swamijis running here and there. I was scared and ran inside the hostel room with another girl. We sat huddled together. Until after a long time, one of the Swamijis came and escorted us out of the room."
Kusum Pradhan, a Class 6 student, could not venture out of her hostel room after dark following the incident. "I too rushed out after hearing the noise. I saw bodies lying in blood. I touched Swamiji's feet, who was lying in the bathroom. It was still warm but he did not move. Nor did Mataji, who lay inside the room," was all Kusum could say.
The 130 girls, who now reside inside the hostels of the sprawling ashram, now cannot venture out. The ashram is guarded by CRPF and Orissa police constables. The girls' relatives are unable to visit the ashram and take them home because of the violence and the ongoing curfew in the district.
Brahmachari Shankar Chaitanya, who is now in charge of the ashram and is always escorted by police constables and CRPF personnel, seethes with anger against both Christians and the state government. "We had written 30 times to the state government that Swamiji's and our lives were at stake, that we were being threatened by Christian leaders. Before the incident, we got a letter threatening to kill Swamiji. We formally complained to the police and district authorities. They sent only four baton-wielding constables," said Shankar Chaitanya. "Not a single minister visited us after the incident, not even of our BJP. The Collector comes sometimes. He gave us rice, dal and sugar for the children."
Chaitanya alleged that it was Christians, not Maoists, who were responsible for the incident. "The Maoists can never do this. It is Christians who threaten us everyday and they did this," he said. He alleged that the ashram has been kept out of the peace process. "No one called us for any meeting or to take part in any peace process. As long as are kept out, the violence will continue."

2. My Take:
Yes, it is the Christians who murdered Swami Lakshmanananda & four others, and not the Maoists. There are strong dogmatic reasons for this, based on the belief system of Christianity.
Behind the long-time Christian-Aggression , against the Hindus of Orissa ( and of elsewhere ), is their traditional belief that, Non-Christian Heathens ( Hindus included ) are gong to Hell, to meet the Devil. Their reason for wanting to convert the Hindus to Christianity, is to save the Hindus from being sucked down to Hell. Since the Hindus have sinned repeatedly, they are on a fast track, to the subterranean domain of fire & brimstone.

3. What crimes have the Hindus committed that, the Christians should be riled to the old-impure thought, of murdering the Hindus ? Besides, the Devil is a totally-imaginary creature ( a creature of existence ), but the Christians have never been accused of being, either logical or terribly smart. Regardless, of being terribly illogical, they are sincerely concerned about saving the Heathen-Hindu, from the clutches of an imaginary-creature ( the Devil ), a creature of their own imagination. It proves a successful ruse to support, the Christian’s Barbarism, against the Heathen-Hindu.

4. There is no peaceful way for the Hindu, to deal with this kind of mindless hatred, of the Christian against the Hindu. Hindus really have no option but, to confront the barbarism of the Christian & devise appropriate counter-measures. On its part, the government ought to investigate the murder of Swami Lakshmananada, and instead of making politically-correct statements ( which are designed for vote-bank politics ), should go after those who murdered the Swami & four others. That is about the only thing, that will remove the terror that, is presently gripping the mind of the Hindu community.

Surinder Paul Attri

surinder attri said...

Subj: Response to Nishe Jee: 1
1.
Submitted by Nishi (India), Aug 27, 2008 at 23:20

Mahamahim Dear Sri S P Attri Ji Maharaj,

You wrote

"What I am saying is that:

Islam is evil

2. What I am saying is the Anti-thesis of Bush's dictum. I am not hiding behind political double-talk, but stating flat out that:

Islam is an Imperialist political ideology ( doctrine ). It is a lethal doctrine that has done colossal damage to innocent Kafir-Humanity, and will do more damage, as long as it survives.

The 1400 year old record of Islam, fully endorses my assertion."

Instead of saying much I only reitrate again that you are very deeply affected by 'Islamophobia'. You appear to be bigger threat to World Peace, because of your extremist & terrorising thoughts than Bush.

You appear to be an apologist belonging to the "Gang" which is treating Muslims & Islam as threat to their criminal Ideology of Hate, suppression of thoughts of Peace & equality etc.

May the Satan, in which you believe so immensly, leave your body & soul, to ALLOW YOU to return to the Path of love, peace, humanity, equality amongst all the people, as early as possible.

We all hope for the best of you in life, despite your criminal intent towards humanity & peace.




Submitted by Nishi (India), Aug 27, 2008 at 23:20

Mahamahim Dear Sri S P Attri Ji Maharaj,

You wrote

"What I am saying is that:

Islam is evil

2. What I am saying is the Anti-thesis of Bush's dictum. I am not hiding behind political double-talk, but stating flat out that:

Islam is an Imperialist political ideology ( doctrine ). It is a lethal doctrine that has done colossal damage to innocent Kafir-Humanity, and will do more damage, as long as it survives.

The 1400 year old record of Islam, fully endorses my assertion."

Instead of saying much I only reitrate again that you are very deeply affected by 'Islamophobia'. You appear to be bigger threat to World Peace, because of your extremist & terrorising thoughts than Bush.

You appear to be an apologist belonging to the "Gang" which is treating Muslims & Islam as threat to their criminal Ideology of Hate, suppression of thoughts of Peace & equality etc.

May the Satan, in which you believe so immensly, leave your body & soul, to ALLOW YOU to return to the Path of love, peace, humanity, equality amongst all the people, as early as possible.

We all hope for the best of you in life, despite your criminal intent towards humanity & peace.




2. My Take:

I generally ignore messages, where the disposition is on personal attacks or deal with them only, when I have nothing better to do.

Nishi Jee: You are transmitting mixed-signals.

One day you put me at the back of the bus, and call me Gadha.

Next day you place me at the front of the bus, and label me as Mahamahim.

3. Quote: Instead of saying much I only reitrate again that you are very deeply affected by 'Islamophobia'.

COMMENT: Nishi Jee: Read my previous message, where I elucidated my total-disconnect with Islamophobia.

4. Quote: You appear to be bigger threat to World Peace, because of your extremist & terrorising thoughts than Bush.

COMMENT: Nishi Jee: I expose Islam’s criminal wave of barbarism ( backed by 1400 years of Islamic history ), and its hostility to the Kafir humanity of the world. My objective is to protect innocent civilized Kafir-humanity of the world. Your description is completely-basackward.

5. Quote: You appear to be an apologist belonging to the "Gang" which is treating Muslims & Islam as threat to their criminal Ideology of Hate, suppression of thoughts of Peace & equality etc.

COMMENT: Nishi Jee: It is Islam that is conducting its Holy-War ( Jehad ), against Kafir-Humanity, to engender conquest of Kafir territories, & capture of Kafir property including Kafir women et al. Islam assigns to Moslems, a duty to conduct Jehad, to lead Islamic political revolution to final victory. It is Islam that is suppressing peace, equality, democracy or civilized treatment of humanity, including Islam’s degrading treatment of its women. I am only stripping Islam of its camouflage of peace, love, and brotherhood . Islam is exact-opposite.

6. Nish Jee: Do I need to describe the genocides that, Moslems have conducted in the name of Allah ? Or should I describe the degradation of women & the inferior position imposed on the women, by Islamic law ? Or should I describe the life of Hazrat Mohammad, to illustrate what kind of “ champion of feminism “

Hazrat Mohammad was ? Or should I relate that in Islam, in terms of inheritance, a woman has half the share of a man, and her vote counts for half that of a woman ?

If you examine Islam, with an open & relaxed mind, you will have hell of a time, warming up to Islam.

7. Quote: May the Satan, in which you believe so immensly, leave your body & soul, to ALLOW YOU to return to the Path of love, peace, humanity, equality amongst all the people, as early as possible.

COMMENT: Nishi Jee: Please don’t make me laugh. Satan ( Shaitaan ) is a totally-imaginary creature ( it is a creature of no-existence ). It is a creature of the imagination of Moslems. It is a self-created catastrophe & a self-created prison of the Moslems. Even your Allah cannot exorcise this imaginary creature, out of you or your co-religionists. Satan ( Shaitaan ) sizzles in Islam, all day long. If Moslems stopped believing in Shaitaan, it will change their life, and will take that much away, from their belief in Islam

I am certainly not a Moslem, and I have no connect with your Satan ( Shaitaan ).

8. Quote: We all hope for the best of you in life, despite your criminal intent towards humanity & peace.

COMMENT: No Nishi Jee: I have no evil intent toward humanity, not even you. I have nothing but warm regards for you.

Surinder Paul Attri