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SJ1. Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "The conversion tactics of the Adventist Christian ...":
Regarding this posting: I think if you are going to quote the Bible, it's important that you quote ALL the Bible that deals with the topic at hand...for example, Matthew 5:21 & 44 which says, "Thou shalt not kill. You shouldn't even be angry with your brother without cause." And "Love your enemies and bless them that curse you!" Christianity is not a religion of violence, but of LOVE.
Also, Christ instructs us first to rescue our own sheep (the house of Israel) but THEN to go and share his love with the world. Matt 28:19,20. And John 15:12, "This is my commandment that ye love one another, as I have loved you."
Our God offers his love freely, and He bids us to share it....but He does nothing by force or fear!! He wants everyone to have the freedom to choose...He even tells us we can choose our own gods. (Josh 24:15) Why can't our Hindu brothers and sisters allow this love and freedom as well??
Your Friend,Peace
2. My Take:Signor Peace is defending his Christian faith, with an iron sense of duty., but he is Not well-informed about Christianity at all. If he explores Christianity seriously, he would discover that Christianity is Not a religion of LOVE, that he has been led to believe (and which he claims ). That Christianity is a religion of Love is, what the Christians want you to believe Christianity is, but Christianity is Not a religion of Love. Christianity is a Gospel Of Hate. Its hatred of Non-Christian religions is legendary.
3.Quote: Matthew 5:21 & 44 which says, "Thou shalt not kill. You shouldn't even be angry with your brother without cause." And "Love your enemies and bless them that curse you!" Christianity is not a religion of violence, but of LOVE.COMMENT: Actions speak louder than words.The historical record of Christianity neither supports this quote, nor Christianity’s claim of religion of Love.Two-thirds of Pagan-Europe was murdered by the soldiers of Jesus Christi, during the Christianization of Europe, and 41 million Native-Americans ( the so-called American-Indians ) were murdered by the Christians in North & South America.If Christianity is a religion of Love, then it has a singularly-queer way of showing its Love.
4. If you read and quote the entire Bible ( as Signor Peace recommends ), you would discover that Christianity is Absolutely-Terrible. Christian God gives orders to exterminate entire nations, people who had done nothing wrong, and he gives their country & their possessions to their murderers.
“ And thou shalt consume all the people which the LORD thy God shall deliver thee; thine eye shall have no pity upon them. “
Read the whole Bible and learn, how the followers of this Christian God, executed this command to perform large-scale murder & plunder. They committed slaughter after slaughter. They exterminated town after town, region after region. Men, old people, women & children: they killed everybody.
5. You read the entire Bible, to learn how this Christian God, demands unconditional obedience, and threatens his followers, in case they should be disloyal to him, to oppress them in such a way, that they will be compelled to eat their own children.
Many more passages from the Bible can be cited, they are all just as terrible.You also will learn how this Bible foretells that, one day in the future this Christian God will, destroy this planet Earth & all its inhabitants. You also read about the horrors that, will happen then.
6. Quote from Signor Peace:Also, Christ instructs us first to rescue our own sheep (the house of Israel) but THEN to go and share his love with the world. Matt 28:19,20. And John 15:12, "This is my commandment that ye love one another, as I have loved you."
COMMENT: Christ also told them to spread his gospel, and that is what the Christians are doing. Christians are told to make disciples of all nations. In the Christian churches of India, Christians are not only saying that their God is better than the rest, but also abuse, ridicule, & denigrate Hindu religion, Hindu gods & goddesses, every day of the week. They also publish a series of Anti-Hindu magazines & pamphlets, calling Hindu religions, and its gods & goddesses absolutely horrible.From kerala to Kashmir, the Christian missionaries are printing books in different names, denigrating Hinduism and Hindus so that they can carryout mass conversions.
7. Here is one example of Christian publications:‘Haqeeqat’ 8. (For Hindus) men can be Gods, women can be Goddesses... animals are gods, snakes are gods... they (Hindu Gods) fight among themselves, marry among themselves, throw out their wives, run away with others' wives, they steal, get intoxicated, drink blood, are reincarnated as animals, fish and tortoise, some of them can lift mountains... Some Gods are in same-sex relationships and are yet able to produce babies. These Gods and Goddesses are always armed because they believe in killing and plunder. Some Gods think their penises are more powerful than nuclear bombs. Others like animals live naked among their followers. Some of them spend their time in yogic exercises, others are in samadhi and happy to see the number of blind followers swell... You can wash away your sins by worshipping the penises of Gods.
8. Quote:Our God offers his love freely, and He bids us to share it....but He does nothing by force or fear!! He wants everyone to have the freedom to choose...He even tells us we can choose our own gods. (Josh 24:15) Why can't our Hindu brothers and sisters allow this love and freedom as well??
COMMENT: If Christian God tells them that we can choose our own gods, then why are the Christians bad-mouthing Hindu gods & goddesses so lavishly ? Is this the kind of Christian love that Signor Peace wants, Hindu brothers & sisters to embody ?
People in India & elsewhere do not hear about Christian aggressions & terrorism, because Christians control Congress, and the Christian Mafia owns the media.
Messages of this type, denigrating gods of other religions, can neither be printed in literature, nor broadcast on TV, they border on criminal activity, and there are laws in the Indian constitution, prohibiting such activity, but these laws are Not enforced. Christians take full advantage of slackness in the enforcement of Indian laws.
9. Christianity’s claim as a religion of peace, love, & brotherhood does not equate with its actions of hate, violence, & terrorism. Its spurious claim only perpetrates & perpetuates fraud. The cruelty & barbarism that Christianity imposes upon Non-Christian religions & people, remains a horrible vision of reality. A rational mind will have plenty of trouble, explaining the Christianity’s Gospel Of Hate.
10 Because Christianity is a Gospel Of Hate, corroborated by its barbaric record, engraved on the pages of history, it hardly qualifies as a religion of peace.
Surinder Paul Attri
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ERADICATION OF OUR PERVERTED CASTE-SYSTEM
By S.P. Attri (USA)
1. Our Hindu people look upto to our Hindu Holy Men (HHMs), whom they extoll to
sky. But our HHMs are not doing a damn thing right, for the safety, security, or
survival of those who pay them so much respect. Their continued bearing as the
Head-Honchos of Hindus, is a fore-shadowing of worse things to come to Hinduism.
Our HHMs have no interest in dealing with either the evils of the world, or the
evils that have crept into our Hinduism. They are much more interested in
securing a place for themselves in the after-world, than in saving Hinduism from
going to hell.
2. Many of our HHMs, not only subscribe to the Pseudo-Secular politics, but are
also openly touting the Utterly Nonsensical Gandhian Slogans of:
SARVA DHARMA SAMABHAVA
The imapct of their actions cannot be good on Hinduism. They are not only
destroying the Kashatriya (Military) Spirit of the Hindu, but are also taking
the mind of the Hindu, away from Hinduism-Defense. Several of our HHMs are
openly praising Sonia Gandhi as:
Sonia is welcome to be the Prime Minister of India. She is a good woman.
3. Our HHMs have no knowledge of the problems and challenges, that Hinduism
faces in the world of today. They have less than zero understanding of the
consequences of the practice of our Perverted Caste-System. They have no
appreciation that every Hindu is equal, and that Dalits have as much right as
Non-Dalits, to enter any temple, and to chant Mantras and Bhajans, in any
temple, any where in India. Because they (our HHMs) do not have this
understanding, they are not going out in the Hindu-Society, to secure the
Hindu-Rights (Vedic-Rights) of our Dalit-Brethren.
We cannot ignore the damage that this attitude is doing to our Hinduism. Any HHM
who does not feel and work towards the equality of all Hindus, should be
IMMEDIATELY kicked out of his position as Shankar-Acharya, Swami, Priest, etc
etc, and helped out of the temple.
4. Whose duty is it to do this Dirty-Job? Answer: It is the duty of all of us
Hindus. All Hindu Organizations must aggressively move into tackling this
problem. They must kick out our Rotten HHMs, and replace them with the Right
Kind Of people, to act as our Head-Honchos. Time is running out for us Hindus,
the world is not going to wait for us Hindus, to get our act together. The world
has no hesitation, in spitting us and our Perverted Caste-System out, by the
forces of global competition. Our Perverted Caste-System is our own problem, our
own garbage, and it is our job, to clean our garbage. Our HHMs are the
Head-Honchos of our Hindu People, they are the ones who build and develop
Hindu-Opinions and Hindu-Attitudes. We must have the right kind of poeple to
develop Hindu-Attitudes, to clean out our Perverted Caste System.
Our Perverted Caste System is the cause of Disunity within our Hindu-Parivar.
The Barbarians of Islam and Christianity (who have murdered hundreds of millions
of Non-Moslems and Non-Christians), take advantage of our caste-based disunity.
They go to the weakest sections of our Hindu Society, as Liberators from
Hindu-Tyranny.
5. Elimination of our Perverted Caste-System, is a Wake-Up Call to all Hindus
(around the world). Our Knowledge-Based (Vidya-Based) Vedic System, has no place
for superstitions and blind-beliefs, of the type that are found massively, in
Islam and Christianity. Hinduism is knowledge-based, and is a Reform-Religion by
definition. We Hindus must kick out our Perverted Caste-System, that has
destroyed our Hindu-Technology for centuries.
Our Perverted Caste-System is BAD-BAD NEWS for our Hindu-Technology. Reason: It
is a Static-System, it keeps our Hindu-Technology at the same place, where it
has been for centuries. But the world in which we are living, is a
Highly-Dynamic World, in which technology is changing and advancing at
break-neck speed. We cannot afford to keep a Bullock-Cart Hindu Technology
System, in the world of airplanes and rockets. What we Hindus need to do is to
join hands, and get rid off the Bull-Sh** of our Perverted Caste-System. To do
that, the people that we appoint as our Head-Honchos, must be the Right Kind Of
People.
1. Dear Friends
Though I am quite impressed by the spiritual commitments of all of you, I feel it is time for some plain speaking and introspection. No spiritual pursuit can be sustained, nor is it possible to achieve any spiritual bliss, if there is no security of lives of the citizens - as happens to be the case today.
Please recall that when Rishi Vishwamitter found that Rakshasas will not allow him to carry on with his ' tapasya' and spiritual pursuits, he went to Maharaja Dashrath and sought the protection of his 2 warrior sons, Sri Rama and Lakshman so that they may ward off /kill the Rakshasas trying to disrupt the Rishi's yagna and tapasya.
It is time to learn the lesson that without armed protection no spiritual pursuit will be allowed by jihadis (read today's Rakshasas)
Ram rkohri@gmail.com
2. My Take:
I concur.
3. The account of Rishi Vishwamitter has a lesson for us. The watch-word is that:
“ The Yagna & Tapasya of the Brahmins can only be practiced/guaranteed, behind the shield of the Kashatriya.
4. If left to their own devices, the Rakshishas of Islam, who have a special command, to wage war against the Kafirs of the world, shall swallow the whole earth.
5. Therefore, Vedic guard & Kashatriya-Shield, “ Must “ be “ Awesome. “
Surinder Paul Attri
Subj: Rejoinder to Saad Bhatti's explanation of Jihad
1. Shri S.P. Attri ji,
I had posted --ISLAM'S JIHAD ( HOLY-WAR ) AGAINST THE KAFIRS OF THE WORLD on face-book discussion on Islam.
"FACEBOOK DISCUSSION--ISLAM'S JIHAD ( HOLY-WAR ) AGAINST THE KAFIRS OF THE WORLD
NAMASTE
PLS GO THRU THE FOLLOWING CONVERSATION.
I NEED YOU HELP IN REPLYING TO "SAADS BHATTI'S POST''. HE IS JUSTIFING THAT JiHAD IS NOT TERRORISM, FROM QURAN.'
SACHIN GUPTA
2. My Take:
Shri Sachin Gupta Jee:
There is a strong & savage connection between Jihad & Janat ( Moslem’s Paradise: the abode of choicest carnal delights & wildest sex with 72 houris ). Since Jihad is the surest means of, access to this Janat, it provides a potent motivation for a Moslem, to engage in Jihad.
I have written a multitude of articles, refuting the bogus statements of guys like Saad Bhatti, he is asking for Quranic quotations. Even though the 1400 year old blood-soaked history, of Islam tells what Jihad is, but let the Quran explain Jihad.
a. " God has bought from the faithful their-selves, and their belongings against the gift of paradise; they fight in the way of Allah; they kill & get killed; that is a promise BINDING on Allah////"
( Repentance 9: 110 )
b. " Fight those who believe not in Allah, and the Last Day, who do not forbid what God and his Messenger have forbidden…such men as practice not the religion of truth, being of those who have been given the Book…until they pay the tribute out of hand, and have been humbled. "
( Repentance 9: 25 )
3. What these two Quranic verses mean is that:
a. Jihad is a binding contract between Allah & his Moslems, with the effect that whatever a Moslem possesses, including his life & property, belong to Allah in exchange for Janat
b. Allah is BOUND by his promise to offer Janat to a Moslem, provided the Moslem kills & gets killed for his pleasure.
c. Moslems must fight the Kafirs ( the Non-Moslem Infidels ).
d. Kafirs are those people who do not believe in the religion of truth ( that is Islam ). The people of the Book, that is the Jews & Christians are also Kafirs, just as others like Hindus, Buddhists etc are. They are all equal-opportunity Kafirs, and must be killed, unless they submit before the Islamic sword, and live as tributaries ( Zimmies ), to acknowledge their humiliation, through payment of Jizyah.
e. Jihad is automatically obligatory upon a Moslem, against those who do not practice, what Allah & Mohammad have prescribed as the proper way of life.
4. Thus there is not only a strong & savage connection, but a Direct-Connection between Jihad & Janat. There is an abundance of other verses in Quran as well as in Hadis, which goad the Moslems to terrorise, tear, & tryrannize the Kafirs.
5. Saad Bhatti's quote;
In Islam there are two types of Jihad, one is with those who declare war against you and your religion...the other is internal, where you fight temptation....
COMMENT: This is the phoney-baloney that Moslems & their Mullahs want you to believe Jihad is, but that is Not what Jihad is. Jihad is all about massacre, mutilation, and misery of Kafirs, inflicted by Moslems. Commission of these atrocities makes Allah HONOR-BOUND, to offer Janat as a gift to a faithful-Moslem.
6. Saad Bhatti's quote:
Didnt you hear of the christian fanatics who use their religion to blow up abortion clinics? thats rligion and fantaticism...
Hiter did use Christianity as an excuse.....
COMMENT: Islam & Christianity are two sides of the SAME coin. Christianity is also an INTOLERANT religion like Islam, but the discussion of Christianity is, beyond the scope of this short rejoinder.
Surinder Paul Attri
ISLAM THE GOSPEL OF HATE
By S.P. Attri ( USA )
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1. It is often narrated that God is love. If God is love, then on the heels of this statement, it follows that fear or terror of God ( such as Allah ) is a tort. Islam says that there is no God but Allah, and belief in Allah is imperative, and that Allah is “ All Merciful. “ If Allah is “ All Merciful, “ then why have the Moslems blessed the whole world with, their Kafir-slaughter ( slaughter of Non-Moslem Infidels ), Kafir terror, torture, loot, plunder, & inhuman rapes of Kafirs in the name of “ All Merciful “ Allah ? And why are the Moslem Jihadis, who have killed many Kafirs, in the name of their “ All Merciful “ Allah, regarded as such honorable warriors of Islam ? Doesn’t this “ All Merciful “ Allah feel the least bit of pity, for these Kafirs ?
Hundreds of millions of Kafirs have been butchered, in the name of “ All Merciful “ Allah, even though Islam claims to be a religion of peace. The raids undertaken & methods followed, by camel-jockey Hazrat Mohammad, became the model for other leaders who followed Hazrat Mohmmad. Kafirs were put to the sword, the surviving Kafirs were sold as slaves.
2. The pattern of Kafir terror & torture is written down in the Quran, and was practised, perfected, and prescribed by the prophet, in his own life time. This pattern has been closely followed by the Caliphs later. Even in present time, this pattern is followed by all Muslim leaders, who aspire to acquire name and fame in this life, and houris (beautiful virgin women) in the next life.
Does this not prove that, instead of preaching love of God & brotherhood of man, Islam injects hatred, alienation, prejudice & barbaric-violence, into the hearts of Moslems ?
The religion of Islam, which is all about killing ( of Kafirs ), cannot be a religion of peace. Islam has nothing to do with the love of God. Islam has created a race of ignorant & barbaric Moslems, who can kill humans faster than wild hungry cats. Moslems need to kill Kafirs, to protect their evil religion of Islam. Islam’s ideology is absolutely evil & damn-dirty. Islam is a religion of devil, and Mohammad is its Devil-Prophet.
3. Because Moslems define their identity in terms of Islam, they are unable to live in harmony with Non-Moslem Kafirs, much less play an effective role as citizens of a modern state. Their psyche & spirit of separatism & chauvinism, has continued for centuries, and shall continue in future as well. Nationalism is totally-incompatible with Islam, because the goal of Islam is to, establish Allah’s Empire all over the world. Moslems are deep & downward in darkness, because Hazrat Mohammad & his Quran, removed the possibility of thinking, reasoning, and reflection, away from them. The only thing that Hazrat Mohammad has given to the Moslems is, belief & false pride that as Moslems, they are the best thing that has happened to humanity. If Moslems have any smarts, they would throw Quran as a worthless piece of trash & foolishness, because Quran has made Moslems, blind to truth & away from the love of God & his humanity.
4. Moslem societies instead of ameliorating, try to purify their societies, by returning to its origin, in the hope that Hazrat Mohammad’s message, would provide the answer as it did in the golden era. But it does not provide the answer because Hazrat Mohammad, does not solve the problem, Hazrat Mohammad is part of the problem. Moslem’s misery is caused by his belief in Hazrat Mohammad & in the religion of Islam, which is a devil’s religion. But Moslems point their finger at others ( Kafirs ), as the cause of their problems, and their destruction ( of Kafirs ) as the solution.
Because Islam is based on fear, if the Moslem know that they can hit & hide, or hit & destroy the Kafirs, they would go for it. Kafirs need to be aware of the astonishing-brutality, shown by Islam through the centuries, it has not wavered or diminished its brutality. Islam constantly seeks blood & revenge against the Kafirs, and against anyone who thinks even in the privacy of his mind, that Hazrat Mohammad was munching dates, sitting in a cave, and hearing voices ( a kind of sickness ).
5. How dreadful are the curses which Islam imposes upon the Kafirs ? Here below is an invocation that an American heard in a Mosque in one of the Arab countries, that he visited recently:
“O Allah, perish America, Christians and all their allies! O Allah, destroy their homes, widow their women and make their children orphans! O Allah, destroy all the Jews and Christians!”
Any rational person would be shocked to hear, such curses poured upon the Americans, the Jews & the Christians, without any distinction. Is chanting of such invocations on all Jews & on all Americans acceptable ? It is acceptable to Moslems because Allah’s curse is upon, those who debar men from the path of Allah. Therefore, it is Islamically-Acceptable.
6.The fanatical frenzy of Islam is as dangerous in man, as hydrophobia is in a dog. The fanatics of Islam want all of us Kafirs dead. Islam is based on the teachings of Hazrat Mohammad who taught his Moslems that, it is Moslem’s duty to murder all Kafirs, that a Moslem can divorce his wife by simply speaking “ I divorce you “ three times, and that raping of concubines is A-O.K. and that all of this is revealed truth, from the one and only true God, Allah. In reality, there is no truth in Islam, it is all a bunch of evil-nonsense.
Islam’s truth & record are documented in blood ( the blood of Kafirs ).
Surinder Paul Attri
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