Caste System

Subj: Caste System
> 1. My point exactly...we are all running after the golden
> deer. Inspite of making so much noise about Raam Janma
> Bhoomi, Raam Setu, Raam Raajya etc., we are totally ignoring
> to learn one of the most important lessons of
> Ramayan...there is no deer with golden skin...even Raam Ji
> had to go through years of torture & Sita Ji through
> public humiliation as consequence of their desire for the
> golden deer. And, yes, the brahmans, their claims that they
> were created by Brahma from the head of Vishnu, the
> Kshatriyas from the shoulders, the Vaishyas from the abdomen
> & so they are higher in the hierarchy, & the
> Shoodras are lowly because they were created from the feet
> of Vishnu & were created for the sole purpose of serving
> the higher castes, okay, agreed. But then, why are the top 3
> castes in the proverbial "deep shit" of hatred
> from the "Shoodras?" Because they forgot that the
> basic sanitation had been delegated to the shoodras...all
> those tasks that are
>
> absolutely important for the oh so clean existence of the
> upper castes. When you starve the very people who are
> supposed to do your dirty work, they will not be able to
> perform their "duty" & will result in ahe
> mess. Do we neglect our feet & pay more attention to our
> heads? Why did these brilliant upper caste people forget
> that the society is like a body...each part is equally
> important, including those parts that create only
> "shit"?
>
> Sorry, but if you can, please put this in more asthetic
> words.
> Namaste
> Poonam
>
> 2. My Take:
> Quote: My point exactly...we are all running after the
> golden deer. Inspite of making so much noise about Raam
> Janma Bhoomi, Raam Setu, Raam Raajya etc., we are totally
> ignoring to learn one of the most important lessons of
> Ramayan...there is no deer with golden skin...even Raam Ji
> had to go through years of torture & Sita Ji through
> public humiliation as consequence of their desire for the
> golden deer. And, yes, the brahmans, their claims that they
> were created by Brahma from the head of Vishnu, the
> Kshatriyas from the shoulders, the Vaishyas from the abdomen
> & so they are higher in the hierarchy, & the
> Shoodras are lowly because they were created from the feet
> of Vishnu & were created for the sole purpose of serving
> the higher castes, okay, agreed.
>
> COMMENT: Regarding the statement " ...there is no deer
> with golden skin " Golden deer do not exist, but
> there are stories of deer with golden antlers.
>
> Quote: And, yes, the brahmans, their claims that they were
> created by Brahma from the head of Vishnu, the Kshatriyas
> from the shoulders, the Vaishyas from the abdomen & so
> they are higher in the hierarchy, & the Shoodras are
> lowly because they were created from the feet of Vishnu
> & were created for the sole purpose of serving the
> higher castes, okay, agreed.
>
>
> COMMENT: Here you are talking about our Hindu Caste System.
>
> I have taken a stand against the caste system, for at least
> 25 years, because it is a hier-archical system, a
> differential system, a system of superiority &
> inferiority of humans by birth, contradistinct from equality
> before law. I have proposed an Integral system, named
> Integral-Hinduism ( a totally casteless Hinduism ) in its
> place.
>
>
> Critics of caste system often cite Hindu scriptures,
> sanctioning the practice of caste system. They fail to
> realize that Hindu scriptures have two types of messages:
> Timely i.e Time-Dependent, belonging only to the people of
> the period, in which they are produced
>
> AND
> Timeless i.e. Time-Independent, that are restricted to no
> time, they are eternal & applicalble to all ages.
>
> It is self-evident that Caste System is a Timely System,
> and conditions now are totally different from when caste
> system was first devised. Caste system is a social system,
> although it is considered a system of the Hindu religion,
> because Hindus practise it. Social systems ( and their
> components, caste system included ) change & must
> change.
>
>
> Initially caste system was Non-Hereditary, but its practice
> for a long long time, made it rigid & inelastic. At this
> point in time,caste system is Totally-Obsolete.
> Caste system has been changing, is changing, and will
> continue to change. Hinduism is moving toward
> Integral-Hinduism. It will take a few generations to
> eliminate caste system completely.
>
>
> 3. Quote: ...each part is equally important, including
> those parts that create only "shit"?
> Sorry, but if you can, please put this in more asthetic
> words.
>
> COMMENT: SH** is a frequently-used word in the US. Even in
> India, people use this word, not for any scientific reason.
> Indians possibly feel that " Americans have got it
> right. "
>
>
> Surinder Paul Attri

Latvian vis a vis Sanskrit

Subj: Latvian vis a vis Sanskrit
1. Very interesting and keep up the Spirit- to help credibility of ancient scripts.
I happen to meet a few US citizens of Latvian origin in 2001
Vidyardhi Nanduri

2. My Take:
Among the European languages, all of which ( except Finnish & Basque of Northern Spain ) are Indo-European languages, Latvian language is the Closest to Sanskrit.

Surinder Paul Attri

MUSLIM MASS MURDERER NOW SEEKS LEGAL REDRESS

1. MUSLIM MASS MURDERER NOW SEEKS LEGAL REDRESS
FORT HOOD KILLER CRIES:
“MY RIGHTS ARE VIOLATED!”
2. My Take:
This bastard wants " an egg on his beer."

3. He ought to be sent where his Allah is sending Kafirs ( Non-Moslem Infidels ). This ought to be a happy contract agreement.

4. The least he ought to be given is:

" A Kafir-Kick in his A**. "

Surinder Paul Attri

Message from Ben 1

Subj: Message from Ben
1. poonam abbi to me
I don't know if any one has ever made the connection, but over their almost 2k years of history, the christions have brought only devastation & destruction to whatever land they have stepped on any where over the globe.

2. My Take:
Poonam Jee:
Some ( albeit very few ) have made the connection, but majority ( Christians & Non-Christians ) has not.

3. In spite of a vastly-wicked record, Christians are " shamelessly " going all out to convert Non-Christians, promising them Heaven, but delivering Hell. It is Totally senseless for Hindus to sit quiet, and make no effort, to inhibit such savagery.

4. Then why are we Hindus sitting on our A** ?
Because we Hindus are too damn selfish. Our highest priority is on our personal welfare, and lowest on rest of Hindu Community.

Surinder Paul Attri

Message from Ben

Subj: Message from Ben

1. christianity is a disgusting religion. there's not one redeemable characteristic about it. yet these buffoons think they need to go into non-christian lands and save the souls of the hindus,buddhists,and other "pagan" types. these self righteous and condescending pricks make me sick.
2. My Take:
Quote: christianity is a disgusting religion. there's not one redeemable characteristic about it.
COMMENT: Damn right you are, Ben.

Christianity is a Masterpiece of Stupidity and Rank Lies ( I am using milder words ! ).

Quote: yet these buffoons think they need to go into non-christian lands and save the souls of the hindus,buddhists,and other "pagan" types. these self righteous and condescending pricks make me sick.

COMMENT: This is because these pricks have Never critically studied their religion. If they had done so, they would have rejected it outright, as being totally false, and not worth a tinker's damn.

Christians claim of Christianity, as the work of God, falls flat on its hindquarters.

Surinder Paul Attri

GOI Visa Rules

Subj: GOI Visa Rules
1. INDIAN AMERICAN INTELLECTUALS FORUM
41-67 Judge Street, Suite 5P
Elmhurst, New York 11373
(718) 478-5735/(718) 271-0453
Katarian@aol.com
Memorandum to Hon. P. Chidambaram, Home Minister of India
c/o Consul General of India December 14, 2009
3 E. 64th Street
New York, NY 10021
Sub: Indian American passport holders born in Pakistan
should be excluded from new visa rules.
Hon. P. Chidambaram: Saadar Namaskar
In view of the busting of Lashkar-e-Taiba’s plot in which the Pakistan based terrorist group was planning to use Pakistan-born US national David Coleman (Dawood Geelani) to launch terrorist attacks in India, Government of India has directed all the missions that all applications for Indian visas from Pakistan-born US national be cleared by New Delhi.
This is a very judicious move and will go a long way in checkmating the diabolical and pernicious designs of the radical Islamic terrorists based in Pakistan, and strengthening safety and security of Indian nationals. However, there is a flaw in this decision. This decision treats Pakistan-born Pakistani-Americans and Pakistan-born Indian-Americans on equal footing. We feel that this decision will adversely affect thousands of Indian American passport holders born in Pakistan.
If hurriedly implemented, this decision could create a lot of problems for Pakistan-born Indian Americans who frequently travel to India on business and pleasure trips. In addition to that Pakistan-born Indian Americans could feel punished for no fault of their own. This anomaly has to be addressed at an early date
Hence, we request you to kindly reconsider your decision and exempt Indian American passport holders born in Pakistan from the purview of this directive.
Very truly yours,
Narain Kataria
President
2. My Take:
Quote: However, there is a flaw in this decision. This decision treats Pakistan-born Pakistani-Americans and Pakistan-born Indian-Americans on equal footing. We feel that this decision will adversely affect thousands of Indian American passport holders born in Pakistan.
COMMENT: Sure there is a glowing foible in the directive of Government Of India ( GOI ), because of which it is going to have un-intended consequences. The GOI directive looks upon all Pakistan-born Pakistani Americans & Pakistan-born Indian Americans identically, as if they both are of one piece. But such is Not the case. There are immense differences between these two groups.
To cover up these glaring differences, or to keep them out of sight, for the sake of political-correctness, is neither sensible nor justifiable, it is terribly-perilous for the safety of society.
3. A logical approach is to tell it like it is & deal correspondingly.
On a group or country-basis, Pakistan-born Pakistani Americans, a vast majority of whom are Muslims, are much much more likely to have attributes of terrorism, than Pakistan-born Indian Americans, a vast majority of whom are Hindus, who do not have traits of terrorism.
3. How can a saint & a sinner be the same ?
How can a bank-manager & a bank-robber be the same ?
How can Pakistan-born Pakistani Americans & Pakistan-born Indian Americans be the same ?
4. GOI would be well advised to loosen or tighten its rules, depending upon who he is, and where he is presently coming from, rather than where he was born.
Surinder Paul Attri

Boycott in Reverse

Subj: Boycott in Reverse

1. Assalam alaikum.

Dear muslim brothers & sisters, please avoid going to


Ideal ice-cream,
Pabbas,
Kalpana sweets,
Lakshmi cloths shop,
Shetty traders,
Komals bakery,
Selection centre,
Kulyadikars,
Childrens Corner,
Jayalaxmi (Udyawara).


An owner of these shops openly supports R.S.S & Bajrangadala.

So please do not purchase anything from these shops, which will damage to our Muslim bros and sisters..

Please don’t neglect this. It’s a strong request with all Muslims....

Please forward to your Muslim friends and relatives...



2. Comment: Dear friends - See the above message circulating in the islamic circles. Please make it a point to support these establishments whole heartedly and avoid all the muslims shops wherever you find. Pay them in their own coin.
Sanjeev
3. My Take:
The boycott of Hindu shops by Sullas, must be countered by Hindus, by a boycott & spurning-exclusion of Sulla shops. Hindus must fight, and must not run away.

4. Sullas are pushing the colors of Islam, but don't know what the hell they are getting into. And Sullas hava an addiction, they are addicted to eating. Their Islam does not provide them much chow or means of sustenance. Consequently, when Sullas get hungry, they always knock at the door of the Hindu employer for employment, quite often under pretense of a Hindu name for themselves. Hindu employer Must verify that he is a genuine Hindu. They must fire him swiftly, if he is a Sulla under pretense of a Hindu name.

5. When the only choice is between food & Islam, the Sulla ALWAYS chooses food & says:
" Hell with Islam. "
And that is a fact.

6. The through-and-through truth is:
" The Sulla never opts to be released from life-bond. "

Surinder Paul Attri